Whoa whoa dont blow this e-mail out of proportian. UK Government
bodies are not corrupt pieces of crap (unlike many government
organisations around the globe) so do not immediatly draw that this is
a publicity thing. The e-mail seems to me to praise the work of the
wikipedia, ask an honest question about its operation and air a
concern about a group of young idiots who are writing crap about the
organisation.
Despite sending them numerous links on how to edit content they will
not be inclined to do so. The main reason being people could see it as
an attempt at self-publicising, a bit like Microsoft writing an
article in a computing magazine.
Take this with good faith! :-) We are happy people!
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 19:54:58 -0600, Fred Bauder <fredbaud(a)ctelco.net> wrote:
I have written a response to Barry, offlist, and
posted it at
[[Talk:National Academy for Gifted and Talented Youth]]. Perhaps you could
forward this suggestion about an external link to the Academy's information
page to him.
Fred
From: Bryan Derksen
<bryan.derksen(a)shaw.ca>
Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 19:25:23 -0700
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] [Barry.Meatyard(a)warwick.ac.uk: Entry in Wikipedia]
At 01:39 AM 9/22/2004 +0200, Jens Ropers wrote:
Maybe we should just send these guys this link [
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?
title=National_Academy_for_Gifted_and_Talented_Youth&action=edit ] and
tell them to work away.
Wouldn't that be a near-perfect solution?
What do people think?
It wouldn't be a perfect solution in this case, because in addition to
simply inquiring about how editing is done Barry is also asking for the
removal of certain versions from the article history and for the version
that their representative writes to be "protected" in some way. We need to
explain both that we can't comply with those requests, and also that those
things won't actually be necessary in order to get a nicely neutral article
written and maintained against POV.
Personally, I'd recommend to them that they add an external link to their
own "about us" page (to reassure them that they'll always have a way to
present themselves according to their own terms) and to make copious use of
the talk: page to explain and attribute any corrections they make to the
article itself so that future editors will have a better idea of which
information comes from which sources (while also pointing out that talk:
pages have different community standards than article text, so that what
they write there is pretty much immune from "tampering"). That's still no
guarantee that the article will remain in the form that they prefer, but
the information they add will hopefully be authoritative enough that it'll
be hard to replace with inaccuracies in the future. Other editors will much
more easily notice biases creeping back in if there's notes in talk: to
work from.
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