David Gerard wrote:
John Lee wrote:
Often? Please. Nobody denies it's abused. But
My main problem is "Nominate for deletion based on my own ignorance."
followed by several "I agree, delete based on my own ignorance."
If people refused to AfD anything they didn't know anything about (who
can really say they know anything about my local garage band?), we would
be deleting a lot less crap, if less good articles. It's all a question
of trading off false positives for false negatives. I have rarely seen
an ignorance-based debate that didn't end up getting closed as a keep,
or being overturned by DRV.
confesses that 95% of the stuff on AfD is crap that needs to go, and
it's difficult (to say the least) to justify deletion of articles (such
as those on garage bands) without appealing to the concept (if not the
phrase) of non-notability.
I have nothing against deleting the truly non-notable, and perusing
the ancient scrolls reveals that Jimbo has said pretty much the same
The problem is it's horribly subjective. Check [[WP:WEB]]'s recent
edit history and the attempts of arbitrary notability bar partisans to
make it policy by assertion, despite strong opposition.
Well, these problems have been here forever. They're not about to go
away any time soon.