Some of us don't read the new messages before trying to edit.
However, talk pages are shown on Google, and block logs aren't... and it is entirely conceivable that a banned user might not want the fact that he or she is banned to show up on Google.
Armed Blowfish
On 10/08/07, Silas Snider swsnider@gmail.com wrote:
Erm... what Josh is trying to say is that people have to wait until they try to edit before being told about a block if we do it your way, but people find out when they log in if we do it his way. There is no reason why we shouldn't do both, but it is nice to get the 'you have new messages' notice in advance of actually editing pages.
Sincerely, Silas Snider
On 8/10/07, Armed Blowfish diodontida.armata@googlemail.com wrote:
Right... but whether your user name is blocked, or someone else's user name is blocked, or an IP address you use is blocked, you will still see either the Blockedtext or the Autoblockedtext when you click on an edit link. The software doesn't check to see if you are blocked before deciding what CSS layout to show you... and besides, banned/blocked users are still allowed to view the source code, just as when pages are protected, so we still need edit links.
Armed Blowfish
On 10/08/07, Josh Gordon user.jpgordon@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, erm, I deliberately didn't say this for fear of being
condescending,
but we're talking about username blocks here.
On 8/10/07, Armed Blowfish diodontida.armata@googlemail.com wrote:
Okay, erm, as a banned user, I am quite sure one finds out when one clicks on an 'edit' link and then there's a big scary red block message... or a not-so-scary blue block message.
Armed Blowfish
On 10/08/07, Josh Gordon user.jpgordon@gmail.com wrote:
Well, actually, they'll know they are blocked when they read their
user
talk
page and see the notice, except in the unusual case of being blocked
while
in the middle of an edit (and saving without previewing.)
On 8/10/07, Armed Blowfish diodontida.armata@googlemail.com wrote:
Except put the template in the blocking reason slot, not the
user's
talk page. Users do not find out they are blocked by reading
their
talk page, they find out when they try to edit and they see the
big
blocking notices ([[MediaWiki:Blockedtext]] and [[MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext]]), which display the blocking reason.
Someone really ought to change the background colour on the Blockedtext to lavender (the pink is quite stressful), and get rid
of
all the stressful red Xs.
Armed Blowfish
On 10/08/07, Josh Gordon user.jpgordon@gmail.com wrote: > I had a quite surprising experience a couple days ago; I noticed
a
> [[CAT:RFU]] for one [[User:Badassfatass]], who had been username-blocked. As > is common in such cases, he yelled CENSORSHIP and HOW DARE WE. I
pointed
him > to our username policies (the original blocker had neglected to
put
the
> username block template on his page), and he said "Fair enough.
I
will
make > a new account with a reasonable name". > > I guess the moral is, "at the very least, please put up the
uw-ublock
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