Marc Riddell wrote:
>> On 07/10/2007, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/10/2007, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It is not an acceptable policy for a rational community.
>>>
> on 10/7/07 11:04 AM, Thomas Dalton at thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Then the community isn't rational - that doesn't really surprise me.
>>
> Wikipedia is an emotional community - not a rational one. Whether this is
> acceptable is up to the Community itself.
on 10/7/07 5:03 PM, Ray Saintonge at saintonge(a)telus.net wrote:
There's a very important dynamic to be balanced
between the emotional
and the rational. That part of the community which is rooted in
computer technology tends too much toward the rational side of the
equation. I was reading the "Artificial Intelligence" entry in the
Geek's Glossary that is appended to the October issue of "Wired" where
they remark that robots still fail in a lot of tasks which are
relatively obvious for humans. Seeing what needs to be done when you
have a sink full of dishes is not a task that a robot easily
recognizes. They have a great deal of difficulty with the ambiguities
of life, with puns and with cultural allusions. Even chess-playing
computers depend on brute force analysis which they can do better than
any human.
We need the rational to keep the train on the track, but we also need
the emotional to look at opportunities for new tracks. The effects are
often subtle. Our massive use of templates gives the impression of
order, but it also reduces options. A person with a more intuitive
approach who wants to suggest alternatives that might very well be
improvements needs to be ready to work his way through a cloud of
virtual insect repellent. Getting through to the egg needs pretty tough
sperm.
Thank you very much for this, Ray. In my work I am confronted every day with
persons in pain produced by the collision of the rational and the emotional.
My task is to help them separate, and find a balance between, the two. Yes,
we do need both: the rational to help us navigate relatively safely through
life, and the emotional so we can fully participate in the process. Keep in
mind, emotional memory is the most powerful one we've got.
Marc