I see so the article's title is "new anti-Semitism" and of course one would
expect to glance over and see an image demonstrative of such a concept but
no they see an image that a few Wikipedia editors are saying (without a
citation that is) is demonstrative of "new anti-Semitism" when no source can
be shown stating as such? Like I said even the photo's source labels it as
mere "anti-Semitism".
I haven't argued for the image's removal as other have (although I'm
becoming convinced of their arguments) all that I've required is that the
image's source "Zombie" from "Zombietime.com" be cited as saying
that the
image was demonstrative of anti-Semitism. That is normal when bias is
ambiguous in articles. I've shown you how WP:NOR states that NPOV applies to
images and I've shown you the section of what NPOV says about attribution of
biased content. Now a good number of editors are agreeing with my concerns
as the talk page and edit history show.
-Scott [[User:Netscott]]
On 8/25/06, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/24/06, Scott Stevenson <wikinetscott(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Always nice to see a demonstration of the
assumption of good faith there
Jayjg. What's an ambigous image doing as the lead image for [[new
anti-Semitism]] anyways?
Um, the whole article is about the disputed and possibly ambiguous
nature of New anti-Semitism. It could hardly illustrate the concept
better, as has been explained multiple times by multiple editors.
Wikipedia's doing a disservice to it's
readers when
doing this, particularly when the caption of the image doesn't spell out
what it's source is saying about it.
No, the continual attempts to suppress or reframe this powerful and
illustrative image, without any backing in policy, is what does a
disservice to Wikipedia.
As others have expressed with an image
like that as the lead Wikipedia is expressing the POV that it is an
example
of "new anti-Semitism".
What do you mean by "New anti-Semitism"? A new kind of Anti-Semitism?
Modern anti-Semitism? Or an attempt to reframe criticism of Israel as
anti-Semitism? Because arguments are made for all these definitions.
Oh, wait, the picture perfectly illustrates that.
If the image stays then editros should at least
ensure that the image's caption is in accord with NPOV
Sorry, again, could you cite the specific words of NPOV that apply to
this image?
Of course not. Because your objection has nothing to do with *actual*
policy.
Jay.
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