I support this. Sysop is only a technical matter, and threatening people with it in any way is very unbecoming. The rest of this is a bit confusing to me, but nonetheless, as a temporary measure, this is fine with me.
Erik Moeller wrote:
I have temporarily revoked Kils' sysop status on en:, someone with developer status on de: may want to do the same. Explanation:
In the last few days, a user named "Viking" has vandalized/downsized a couple of articles he considered "indecent" (especially the [[fisting]] article), threatened people not to question what he is doing if they didn't have "administrator status" and then left (there was a brief discussion of a possible ban). Kils subsequently deleted Viking's user and talk pages and explained it was an "experiment of his children".
I asked him for details, he responded and then *deleted his talk page* before I could read his response. I restored the talk page and there was the following response.
Eloquence: I confirm this - I do not think any had the quality of vandlism, otherwise I would have stepped in. We were concerned that a "handbook type" with direct instructions to certain practises on certain pages was endangering the reputation of wikipeia and of us as visible contributers and cooperators. A first thing many teachers and professors for example do, before they endorse or use a web based project in class or with students/parents, is to search for ugly content within. And there was some, and as we were supported by responses of colleagues with the right background it was beyond the rules of wikipedia - young vikings are often of very spontaneous mannors, I advised them to do things different, but then we are also very democratic. they plan to do it different now - we could have done everything anonymous, but we did not - from that you can deduct that we all are interested in communication and construction - we are all astonished how much time you spent in the wikipedia project (Anerkennung!) you seem to need only very little sleep - best greetings across the ocean (from the USA) from uwe kils - user Kils 18:50 31 May 2003 (UTC)
It seems quite clear that Uwe Kils shares Viking's standard of "decency" regarding Wikipedia articles and feels that material e.g. about specific sexual practices is inappropriate. In light of his actions, I do not trust him to be a sysop anymore.
In spite of my objections, this should normally go through discussion first before the status is revoked, but I am worried that Kils might delete more pages, and it seemed like an appropriate safety measure. I also wanted to allow others to take a look at his user talk page to have a track record, and this was not possible with him being a sysop, because then I could not protect the page or stop him from deleting it. If anyone feels that Kils must be a sysop again, please post.
Regards,
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