On 2/17/06, Sam Korn <smoddy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/17/06, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:
"Jew", "Muslim", and
"American" are now "epithets", similar to "Nazi",
"racist" and "pedophile"? And there's "no moral value"
associated with
being a pedophile or a racist or a Nazi?
"American" and "Muslim" are epithets along the lines of
"Nazi" and
"paedophile"? As Steve Bennett said, eep.
Either you are deliberately misconstruing my words or you don't
understand what I'm writing.
Where I live, any of the following posters would "provoke righteous
outrage from a fairly large proportion of the community: "I'm a
pedophile", "I'm a Nazi", "I'm a socialist",
"I'm a racist", "I'm a
communist", "I'm a Jew", "I'm a Muslim", "I'm a
American", "I'm a
gay", "I'm hating you", "I'm liking your daughter",
"I'm doing it with
your mum", "I'm better than you".... etc.. etc... etc...
In the intolerant community where I live, the labels American, Muslim,
Nazi and pedophile (among the other listed) on someones front door
would all "provoke righteous outrage ... " I personally, believe it
is very bad to be a Nazi or a pedophile, I don't think it is any bad
at all to be an American or a Muslim. That is my *personal* opinion,
and I believe that my view on what labels are "bad" are not shared by
the rest of the world. Therefore, I do not want Wikipedia to decide
which values of X in "I'm a X" on someones user page is acceptable. If
you want Wikipedia to decide that, then please list the values of X
that are acceptable and the values of X that are unacceptable.
Also, I checked a dictonary for the word "epithet." Epithet is a
synonym for label (term used to characterize a person or thing) such
that as "American" in "George Bush is an American" is both an epithet
and a label. That was what I meant when using the word epithet. I also
found that epithet can be used in a derogatory way such as moron can
be an epithet for a person you don't like.
To reduce the likelihood of further misunderstandings, please assume
that I'm not a hater of Americans or Muslims. OK?
--
mvh Björn