On 02/08/07, Steve Summit <scs(a)eskimo.com>
wrote:
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I am no less sorry than anyone else to say this,
but: the trolls
are out there. They are not going to go away. Most importantly,
they are *not our fault*. To imagine that they somehow are "our
fault", to pretend that we can do anything to make them go away,
is a futile, perhaps even delusional folly.
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on 8/2/07 7:19 PM, Armed Blowfish at
diodontida.armata(a)googlemail.com wrote:
Stalking to the point of revealing someone's
personal information to
the world, making them vulnerable to further stalking goes beyond mere
trolling. But that's semantics.
In any case, you are right - it is not your fault. The wrongs
stalkers do are on their heads.
No, you can't stop every stalker / abuser / harasser in the world.
Nonetheless, some environments are more friendly to stalkers than
others. There are things that can be done to influence the
statistics. Can you be blamed for not helping when you don't know how
to help? No. But that doesn't mean there aren't things you can do to
help... e.g. supporting people who have been hurt and helping to
create an environment that is not friendly to
stalkers/abusers/harassers.
Armed Blowfish
Yes, AB. And stalkers, abusers, and harassers don't survive very long in an
environment where the noise they are making doesn't get the reaction they
need to thrive.
Marc
I have been reading all this with a degree of interest and a lot of
dismay. I really think everybody should shut up and stop posting for a
few days. The whole debate is doing nobody and nothing any good. After a
few days maybe some people can come back and address some of the issues
in a general non-specific way.
Brian.
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