[WikiEN-l] Stevertigo and anti-Semitism

I am really having a tough time digesting all of Stevertigo's barbs at Jews diatribes on this list. His obsession with Jews, and those who hate Jews, is the only common link to his contributions to Wikipedia. Do people here recall his attempts to promote Nazi Holocaust deniers as mainstream academics that deserve respect? His repeated edits which attempt to deny that anti-Semitism exists in many articles? His attempts to claim that anti-Semitism doesn't mean hatred of Jews at all? His constant Jew-baiting, where he lists a handful of people that much of the Jewish community views as anti-Jewish - whom he then presents as heros? Does anyone here do constant atheist baiting? Christian baiting? Hindu baiting? No. We only see Stevertigo's Jew baiting...and it has been gooing on for quite some time. Consider his newest post: He finds a handful of people of Jewish descent who say anti-Jewish things, which many Jews find anti-Semitic. Stevertigo quotes them, promotes them for the sole purpose of attacking Jews, yet then claims that he can't be anti-Semitic, because they are Jews, and Jews cannot be anti-Semitic. Is anyone fooled by this childish wordplay? Stevertigo writes: By the way, Stevertigo himself knows that his claims are false. A phenomenom common to many ethnic and national groups is the existence of self-hatred. "There is little doubt that psychologically, racism is harmful to its victims. The most profound effect associated with situations of extreme degradation (such as is found under slavery or in concentration camps or in racist states like South Africa) is the acceptance by the oppressed group of the dominant group's definition of the situation. This is the phenomenon of self-hatred found, for example, in cases of Jewish anti-Semitism or in the acceptance by blacks of white aesthetic criteria of having straight hair or a light skin. Self-hatred is often accompanied by symptoms of apathy, anxiety, and depression or by forms of self-destructive escapist reactions such as alcoholism or drug addiction or, in extreme cases, by paranoid, schizophrenic or manic depressive psychoses. In such situations of extreme degradation then, the oppressed group frequently reacts in an 'intropunitive' fashion; that is, it turns its frustrations inwardly against the self or the 'in' group at large." (Source: Racism And Its Effects, Shreya Khatau) Examples of people who are sometimes considered Jewish anti-Semites are Noam Chomsky and Israel Shahak. Referring to works by Israel Shahak and others, The ADL's report on The Talmud and Anti-Semitism states "In distorting the normative meaning of rabbinic texts, anti-Talmud writers frequently remove passages from their textual and historical context....Those who attack the Talmud frequently cit ancient rabbinic sources without noting subsequent developments in Jewish thought....Are the polemicists Anti-Semites? This is a charged term that should not be used lightly, but the answer, by and large, is yes. Now and then a polemicist of this type may have been bon Jewish, but their systematic distortion of the ancient texts, always in the direction of portrarying Judaism negatively, their lack of interest in good-faith efforts to understand contemporary Judaism from contemporary Jews, and their dimissal of any voices opposing their own, suggests that their goal in reading ancient rabbinic literature is to produce the Frankenstein version of Judaism that they invariable claim to have uncovered." Chomsky and Shahak, not surprisingly, are about the only people of Jewish descent that Stevertigo agrees with. What conclusion can one draw from this? No, Stevertigo, the term is merely used to accurately describe you. RK __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com