On 11/23/05, Bryan Derksen <bryan.derksen(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
geni wrote:
Oh, come on. If you go with my "feed them in slowly" suggestion, then
you never get 5000 links in the queue to begin with. If you go with my
"put big surges in a backlog so there's time to process them at liesure"
suggestion, you can just use the same tried and true approaches that are
used in the high-volume AfD process to manage them (eg., split them up
over multiple pages). These are perfectly simple answers that you should
have thought of considering how long you've been involved in
deletion-related discussions here.
The lists are bot generated. No system we normaly use has shown the
ability to kill 1000s of items fast. It was a one off event. No point
in trying to fit it into normal processes when we don't have to. All
in all we got the job done and very few people complained.
On nov 18 IFD had 14 images added. Now lets assume we decide to delete
those 5000 images (the true number is greater) over 50 days. That is
stupidly slow but even then we increase the load on IFD by an order of
manitude.
As far as I can tell this is a non sequitur. My text
above was in
response to speedy-deleting orphaned fair-use articles on the basis that
they're _orphaned_, after I pointed out that orphanhood can be a result
of vandalism on other articles that you can't detect at a glance when
you're only examining the image information page. Are you suggesting
that changing the fair use notice templates would somehow prevent
vandals from deleting the images from articles that use them in valid
ways? Vandals, by their very nature, don't pay attention to such things.
Vandals don't seem to have much effect on this area. Most vandalism I
see does not ivolve fair use images.
My basic point remains. An image should never be
speedy-deleted soley
because it's an orphan, because with the current software there's no way
to tell whether its orphanhood is a temporary state. Such images should
be given more careful consideration, at the very least a time delay to
allow for the possibility that its orphan status will change in the near
future.
As and when you find us enough admins to do the above we will. Untill
then mass deletion is the only tool in the box.
--
geni