Please take a look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kathmandu_Univ…
Should we, as I suggest there, cut a bit of slack for artciles about
something in the Third World, or do we just accept the "no reliable
third party sources for notability" mantra. It is just a stub and the
information seems well supported by the external link to the School
site. Not perfect, I agree, but I do not suppose Kadmandu newspapers are
searched by Google and that is not perfect either. I would welcome views
in general on this sort of thing, without asking any of you to intervene
in that discussion for deletion.
Brian
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David Gerard said:
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:17:36 +0000
From: "David Gerard" <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [WikiEN-l] corporate "problems with articles" seems to be
working a bit
The "problem with your article?" page for en:wp is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contact_us/Article_problem/Factual_e…
It directs people to either the Help Desk or to OTRS. The Help Desk
appears to be getting a few reasonable queries from organisations,
which are being dealt with properly.
No flood of crap yet, which is good :-)
OTRS volunteers - how's it looking from your side?
- d.
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My experience with it has not been so impressive, and I've e-mailed David
Gerard about this privately, and I didn't receive a response back from him,
so I don't know why he's saying things are being "dealt with properly". I
will assume good faith.
I submitted through "Factual error from enterprise" form what I thought was
a reasonable request for remedy, on January 30th. Having not heard back from
them by February 8th, I sent a follow-up e-mail asking if I should expect a
response, or whether my query had fallen through the cracks. The rather
frazzled response from "Wesley Northrup" came to me a few hours later:
>> Dear Gregory Kohs,
>> Thank you for your mail. You said: "Should I expect that the info-en-q
team
will be responding to me directly in any way?"
>> Do you have any idea how clogged our mail queue is? We're doing the
best we
can.
- - - -
I think you can see the inherent problem of Wikipedia handling corporate
concerns of libel this way -- 10 days is a little long for a concerned party
to wait for any reply, and even then, only after a second query had to be
sent. Now it is February 15th (two and a half weeks from the first
missive), and I have still not received any meaningful response, other than
the information that the OTRS mail queue is "clogged".
I don't mean to be a wet blanket -- I'm actually glad that Wikipedia is
seeking to take some of the "corporate concerns" issues out of the hands of
Jimbo and Brad (I feel that they are too busy, and rightly so, with more
important operational matters), and letting some of the esteemed volunteers
process these concerns is likely to result in more cooperative outcomes.
But, to me, it looks like my concern is not being "dealt with properly", as
Gerard would suggest.
Kindly,
Greg
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Is this the real life, is this just a wiki
Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality
Open your Firefox, look up at the blocks and see
I'm just a vandal, I need no sympathy
Because I'm easy come, easy go, little high, little low
Anyway the block blows, doesn't really matter to me
...to me
ArbCom, just made attacks, put my fingers to the keys
Typed a message, now it's free
ArbCom, WikiLife had just begun
But now I've gone and thrown it all away
ArbCom, oooh... Didn't mean to make you fry
If I'm not logged on this time tomorrow
Carry on, carry on, as if nothing really matters
Too late, my block has come, sends shivers down my spine
Laptop's aching all the time
Goodbye everybody, I've got to go
Leave this all behind and face the Net
ArbCom, oooh (anyway the block blows)
I don't want to be banned, I sometimes wish I'd never edited at all
I see a little silhouetto of a ban
Yank-a-sox, Yank-a-sox, will you do the vendetta
Blocked at speed of lightning, very very frightening me
All the sysops (all the sysops)
All the sysops (all the sysops)
All the sysops, Jimbo Wales (Magnifico)
But I'm just a vandal and nobody loves me
He's just a vandal with a trolling history
Spare him his computer from this monstrosity
Easy come easy go, will you let me go
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Will not let you go, let me go
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On IRC, on IRC, on IRC let me go
Jimbo Wales has an unblock put aside for me, for me, for me
So you think you can troll me and spit at my reply
So you think you can block me and leave me to die
Oh Wiki, can't do this to me wiki
Just gotta get out, just gotta get right out of here
Nothing really matters, anyone can see
Nothing really matters, nothing really matters to me
Any way the block blows....
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fault when he merged into the left most lane, crushing my car between his
trailer and the concrete barrier. I'm just lucky it was rush hour traffic
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:19:50 -0600
From: "Truth Beholder"
Subject: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: Fascistopedia as Slashdot notes it,
definitely
To: wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
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And now the fascist patrol has locked my page so I can't request unblock,
how fucking fascist typical of fascistopedia.
Slashdot was right, you're nothing but a bunch of arrogant fascist assholes.
Truth Beheld, Wikipedia is a bunch of Fascist Assholes.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Truth Beholder
Date: Feb 15, 2007 2:14 PM
Subject: Fascistopedia as Slashdot notes it, definitely
To: wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
So I followed a slashdot link to an essay on you fascists and to a user
discussion on your admins noticepage and I noticed one of your bad faith
people closed the discussion despite people raising questions.
I made a note and went on and was trying to edit wording on the atomic
energy page when one Theresa Knott comes along and decides to be a fascist
bitch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_not…http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:TruthBeholder&action=history
She even goes around lying what she does too, claiming the discussion wasn't
blocked when clearly the note left there by the bad faith admin facsists
said otherwise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ATruthBeholder&diff=10…
Wikipedia's just a bunch of lying fascists I see.
TruthBeholder, beholding the truth of the fascistopedia.
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If you want someone to agree with you and sympathize with your point of view, calling them "fascist assholes" won't help.
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