WikiEN-l January 2005

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[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia quoted on air! (without credit, unfortunately!)
by Arwel Parry 14 Jan '05

14 Jan '05

On this morning's phone-in on BBC Radio Five Live, about the furore about Prince Harry wearing a Nazi uniform to a fancy dress party, the host, Victoria Derbyshire, read a history of the swastika's use in eastern religions -- I thought "that sounds familiar", and sure enough it turns out to be the last paragraph of the introduction of our [[Swastika]] article, with a couple of sub-clauses omitted. You can hear it on "Listen again" at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/fivelive_aod.shtml?morning# until tomorrow's show goes up -- click the +15 minutes button three times as soon as the programme begins, and you'll be right in the middle of the quote. -- Arwel Parry http://www.cartref.demon.co.uk/

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Boston ALA conference this weekend
by Sj 14 Jan '05

14 Jan '05

There will be Wikipedia flyers and WP-knowledgable librarians wandering about the ALA conference in Boston this weekend. (tomorrow through tuesday) We don't have our own booth, but a number of attending librarians with floor passes are giving us a hand. If you are visiting the conference, be sure to say hello to them. And if you have WP-related content that you think the people on the display floor would be interested in, or things we should target at librarians in particular (like a clear description of what a library-meetup / collaborative research day might be like), let me know. Right now, the plan is : "Ask me about Wikipedia!" buttons and a flyer explaining what WP is about. -- +sj+

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Watching errors get copied and mirrored
by Stacey Greenstein 13 Jan '05

13 Jan '05

When I first updated the Primate pages to use a 2001 taxonomy, I accidentally typo'd genus ''Pseudopotto'' as ''Psudopotto''. Recently I fixed the error. Googling, I can find all the mirrors that have picked up the error but which haven't yet gotten a more recent copy, as well as 'pedias that have copied and/or translated it, maintaining the error. Although it doesn't show on Google, Wikispecies even copied my mistake. I feel so honored. *grins* yours in amused ramblings, [[en:User:UtherSRG]]

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{{Nonfreedelete}}
by Jack Lutz 13 Jan '05

13 Jan '05

{{Nonfreedelete}} on en Wikipedia is a template that specifies a with-permission etc. non-free image may be deleted within 30 days if a free license isn't granted. I noticed it because bot PocciScript has slapped it on a number of images. The template has two edits, one of which was merely to correct a link, and there is no discussion page. What's with it? Obviously we are not purging all fair use and with-permission photos, so what is this for? [[en:User:119]]

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Are we being spoofed?
by apw＠ap-woolrich.co.uk 13 Jan '05

13 Jan '05

Hi everyone This morning I received in my mail box a message purporting to come from wikien-l-bounces(a)Wikipedia.org It relates to a message I am supposed to have sent the list headed *Darling*, and which has been bounced since it is too big. It ends by inviting me to click a link to cancel the posting if I wish. Needless to say the person whom I am likely to address as darling is not on this list. I am up to date on my anti-virus, firewall and am clean of adware, so assume this is yet another spammer's devious trick! Tony Woolrich Canal Side, Huntworth, Bridgwater, Somerset UK Phone (44) 01278 663020 Email apw(a)ap-woolrich.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.10 - Release Date: 10/01/2005

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Obscure copyright
by apw＠ap-woolrich.co.uk 13 Jan '05

13 Jan '05

Hi everyone, In view of the recent death of the author, it is clearly still in copyright and this is owned by his heirs, if there are any. Is this a personal document or an 'official' one? If the latter then the copyright would be with the successors of the Germany Navy then, presumably the present German Ministry of Defense. Tony Woolrich Canal Side, Huntworth, Bridgwater, Somerset UK Phone (44) 01278 663020 Email apw(a)ap-woolrich.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.10 - Release Date: 10/01/2005

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SOLLOG article
by csherlock＠ljh.com.au 13 Jan '05

13 Jan '05

I've finished putting in a references section. I'd appreciate it if we could keep this going! Heck, after things calm down it might be FAC worthy. TBSDY

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No blogs, portals or sites which have less information than this
by actionforum＠comcast.net 12 Jan '05

12 Jan '05

The subject is the edit summary from the edit that removed NSK's link. Independent of the particulars of NSK's site, this summary is not a valid excuse, wikipedia articles can grow to a level of completeness that most external sites cannot match, yet a lot of our information comes from external sites, and it can be important to cite those sites even though their information has been included in the article and a subsequent editor unfamiliar with the history may now consider them redundant.. -- Silverback -------------- Original message -------------- > Hello. > > Please check > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Homo_floresiensis&diff=0&oldid=93… > > It is about the removal of an external link to my site that I first inserted > in October. See: > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Homo_floresiensis&diff=6952756&ol… > 952087 > > The link is this: http://portal.wikinerds.org/node/103 > > I insert only links that I truly believe are informational and I have no > interest to insert any bogus links. I truly believe that my report is > informational. > > Please explain why it was considered inappropriate and give me a link to any > external links policies that you may have. > > The link was removed by Adam Bishop. He contacted me through e-mail and I > answered promptly. I explained my concern that my link was removed because it > was pointing to a "competing" wikisite. He said that the link was spam > because it was pointing to my site. > > Other links to my site removed by Adam Bishop have been featured on > Slashdot.org - check: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/28/1825218 and > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/19/174240 - Links to wikinerds.org > that were featured on these Slashdot stories were added (and subsequently > removed by Adam Bishop) in this article: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Foundation_Europe - I have since > inserted links to the Slashdot stories because I believe that they are > informational. > > All that happened the same day I decided to start contributing some of my > articles on Wikipedia (and thus relicensing some CC content under GFDL for > your use) - See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zsync > > I don't agree that I should not be allowed to post links to my site just > because it is mine. This isn't spam. > > I post this message on the mailing list because I want a clear answer on > whether my link about Homo Floresiensis was spam or not. If the other admins > agree with me that self-linking is not spam then I would like Adam Bishop to > reconsider and post a public apology on his userpage stating that my link on > Homo Floresiensis was not spam. If you decide that the link was not > informational, I have no problem with this. But I truly believe that > describing it as spam was unfair. Adam Bishop stated in the History log of > the Homo Floresiensis article: "01:45, 12 Jan 2005 Adam Bishop (removing > spam)" > > I also promise to not post any other external links without asking on the > mailing list or the village pump first. > > -- > NSK > Come to see the new wikiprojects at http://portal.wikinerds.org > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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Possible 3RR breaches by sock puppets
by Robert Brookes 12 Jan '05

12 Jan '05

Greetings all, I would appreciate some assistence in this matter. While I appreciate that the use of sock puppets is no more than frowned upon at Wikipedia the using of sock puppets to breach the 3RR is certainly not allowed. Therefore it is requested that someone inform me how to establish how to do it myself (or if it is restricted) then to establish whether the following users are one and the same or just a clever tag-team arrangement. Michael Glass Robert Blair 207.69.137.205 207.69.138.202 207.69.137.136 207.69.137.206 4.231.23.133 Much obliged Robert --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less.

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Read the Signpost
by Michael Snow 11 Jan '05

11 Jan '05

In light of the size of Wikipedia, it's increasingly difficult for people to keep track of significant happenings in the community. I've made a new effort to collect this information by actually writing about it. In other words, I've started a newspaper. It's called The Wikipedia Signpost, and I'm planning to publish it on a weekly basis. Read it at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost Many of you probably try to keep track of some of these things, so some of it will be familiar. Still, I would guess that everybody could find some stuff in there that they don't know. And there was even more that I just didn't have time to write up. People who might want to be reporters are welcome - please contact me if you're interested. This is needed because we've long passed the point where anyone can be everywhere at once. --Michael Snow

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