WikiEN-l October 2003

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Dammit! Post to the right list or don't post at all. (was Re: MT and pro-Catholic bias)
by Daniel Mayer 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

It is really so difficult to make sure that en.Wikipedia stuff like article disputes and allegations of abuse of power goes to WikiEN-L while discussion about controversial new features goes to Wikipedia-L? --mav __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

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possible plagiarism -- oops!
by steven l. rubenstein 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

Please disregard my last e-mail. As Snoyes pointed out, one must scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page (on nationmaster) to find the appropriate acknowledgement to Wikipedia, Steve Steven L. Rubenstein Associate Professor Department of Sociology and Anthropology Bentley Annex Ohio University Athens, Ohio 45701 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.528 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 10/16/2003

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possible plagiarism
by steven l. rubenstein 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

I have been removing text to talk, generally concerning the Ottoman Empire (articles on the Ottoman Triumvirate, Suleiman the Magnificent, Ormus, etc.). These seem to be plagiarized from WWW.nationmaster.com, which >holds copyright on all aspects of this site (including but not limited to >content and layout), with the exception of the text from articles taken >from Wikipedia and where copyrights are held by our sources Before I remove any more text to talk, I'd appreciate it if someone can check this for me. As far as I can tell, the text in the nationmaster encyclopedia is not attributed to Wikipedia, so I have assumed that one of our contributors has been copying from them, rather than vice versa. But I'd appreciate it if someone else can look into this further before I make any more changes, Thanks, Steve Steven L. Rubenstein Associate Professor Department of Sociology and Anthropology Bentley Annex Ohio University Athens, Ohio 45701 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.528 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 10/16/2003

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No one's banning anyone - not till Jimbo gets back
by Poor, Edmund W 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

Everyone, please just relax. 1. Erik (Eloquence) isn't going to ban anyone. * He said he wouldn't (and I trust him on that). * If he did (which he wouldn't), Tim or Brion or I would simply undo the ban (only takes 5 seconds) 2. Erik is highly exercised over something, but he is working it out in EXACTLY the proper manner. * Bringing the issue to the mailing list * Trying to work it out with the other user * Renewing his promise not to "push the ban button" himself. A couple of people have volunteered to be mediators, with varying results. I won't name any names, because I'd rather be a cheerleader on the sideline. Nothing will be decided until Jimbo comes back. There is no emergency. It's not vandalism. No one is threatening anyone. Just chill out... ^_^ Uncle Ed

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Watchlist
by K Forstner 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

Time for the silly question(s). Wasn't the watchlist feature disabled some time ago? Also, who might profit from being able to access my "watchlist" (see below)? Thirdly, do some regular contributors automatically click "Watch this page" whenever they think it *might* be useful for them at some point in the future while others are much more careful which pages they select? (For example, why on earth is Ericd's talk page on my watchlist?) I agree with Mr Oak (don't remember the exact name now) that it's basically only my business which pages I watch; and there *is* a difference between watching and editing pages: You may have all kinds of interests but unable and/or unwilling to contribute in many of those fields. KF My watchlist (for user "KF") (1917 pages watched not counting talk pages; 219 total pages edited since cutoff; checking recent edits for watched pages... show and edit complete list.) Below are the last changes in the last 1 hours. Show last 1 | 2 | 6 | 12 hours 1 | 3 | 7 days all 21 Oct 2003 (diff) (hist) . . Defensive wall; 17:24 . . Lir (Talk) (diff) (hist) . . Wikipedia:Requested articles; 17:23 . . Kingturtle (Talk) (spot edits and alphabetizing. also removed: [[SCAP]]) (diff) (hist) . . Wikipedia:Votes for deletion; 17:21 . . 217.206.44.122 (Talk?) (Pi day.) (diff) (hist) . . User talk:Ericd; 17:19 . . Ericd (Talk) (to Ed) (diff) (hist) . . Wikipedia:Village pump; 17:18 . . Kingturtle (Talk) (re: NPOV autobiography?) (diff) (hist) . . Wikipedia:Sandbox; 17:18 . . 64.80.80.230 (Talk?) (diff) (hist) . . M Sherlock Holmes; 17:16 . . Zoicon5 (Talk) (diff) (hist) . . Wikipedia:Links to disambiguating pages; 17:05 . . Jimbreed (Talk?) (Legolas is not a disambiguating page) (diff) (hist) . . Talk:List of people known by initials; 17:04 . . Calieber (Talk) (diff) (hist) . . M User talk:Chris K; 17:03 . . Morven (Talk) (quoting fix) (diff) (hist) . . Current events; 16:57 . . King brosby (Talk) (diff) (hist) . . American and British English Differences; 16:50 . . 144.177.0.6 (Talk?) (People in the UK do not say "sport page" or "drugs dealer". They say "sports page" and "drug dealer", as in the US. Deleting that paragraph.) (diff) (hist) . . M Wikipedia:Brilliant prose candidates; 16:42 . . JDG (Talk) (Moved Race to B. Prose after month with no objections) (diff) (hist) . . M Wikipedia:Brilliant prose; 16:37 . . JDG (Talk) (added Race article)

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Problem with photos
by Eric Demolli 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

My photo of a Porsche 912 -took by myself- on the Porsche article was replaced by another wich is obviously not a Porsche 912. The new picture is IMO studio works and probably copyrighted. It seems impossible to recover the old photo. Why ? Even if the new image is uncopyrighted and better than mine, mine could be useful elsewhere (on a Porsche 912 article) for instance. Eric Demolli (Ericd)

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Watchlist feature wishlist
by Anthere 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

Ed writes: > I would like to have my watchlist publicly viewable, and I would also > like to maintain (discreetly) a private, non-viewable watchlist. > > Additionally, I would like to have a publicly EDITABLE watchlist: like, > hey Ed please watch this page! This can already be done. Just create a page in your userspace with links to pages that you are "publicly" watching, and click on Related Changes any time to see what pages have been edited. This is essentially a "public watchlist". Evercat ------ I would like this feature to be discussed on the proper list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

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Watch list (Ed)
by Anthere 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

I would like to have my watchlist publicly viewable, and I would also like to maintain (discreetly) a private, non-viewable watchlist. Additionally, I would like to have a publicly EDITABLE watchlist: like, hey Ed please watch this page! I'd even like to have multiple watchlists, each with: * a name * a setting for publicly viewable, or hidden * a setting for publicly editable, or personally controlled I need an NPOV watchlist, a "users fighting" watchlist, and a "global warming" watchlist. How soon can we get this stuff, Tim/Brion/Magnus and crew? ^_^ Ed Poor ------ I would like this feature to be discuss on the right list. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

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Public watchlist
by Allan Crossman 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

Ed writes: > I would like to have my watchlist publicly viewable, and I would also > like to maintain (discreetly) a private, non-viewable watchlist. > > Additionally, I would like to have a publicly EDITABLE watchlist: like, > hey Ed please watch this page! This can already be done. Just create a page in your userspace with links to pages that you are "publicly" watching, and click on Related Changes any time to see what pages have been edited. This is essentially a "public watchlist". Evercat -- Allan Crossman - http://dogma.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk PGP keys - 0x06C4BCCA (new) || 0xCEC9FAE1 (compatible)

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Watchlist feature wishlist
by Poor, Edmund W 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

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