Hi,
During the Zürich Hackathon I met several people that looked for solutions about how to integrate external open datasets into our projects (mainly Wikipedia, Wikidata). Since Wikidata is not the right tool to manage them (reasons explained in the RFC as discussed during the Wikidata session), I have felt convenient to centralize the discussion about potential requirements, needs, and how to approach this new changing landscape that didn't exist a few years ago.
You will find more details here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/How_to_deal_with_open_d...
Your comments, thoughts and ideas are appreciated!
Cheers, Micru
2014-05-15 11:25 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com:
During the Zürich Hackathon I met several people that looked for solutions about how to integrate external open datasets into our projects (mainly Wikipedia, Wikidata). Since Wikidata is not the right tool to manage them (reasons explained in the RFC as discussed during the Wikidata session), I have felt convenient to centralize the discussion about potential requirements, needs, and how to approach this new changing landscape that didn't exist a few years ago.
You will find more details here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/How_to_deal_with_open_d...
Your comments, thoughts and ideas are appreciated!
Thanks for the pointer, "How can I put this open data on Wikidata is a question that I have been asked many times", this page was needed.
Ciao,
C
On 15 May 2014 12:42, Cristian Consonni kikkocristian@gmail.com wrote:
You will find more details here
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/How_to_deal_with_open_d...
Your comments, thoughts and ideas are appreciated!
Thanks for the pointer, "How can I put this open data on Wikidata is a question that I have been asked many times", this page was needed.
Definitely agree that we needed something like this. There's a lot of confusion about what Wikidata is for, and what is and isn't appropriate for it - both from outsiders and from within the Wikimedia community. I've seen vague "it's data, it'll go on Wikidata" a few times, which is a bit like saying "it's text, it'll go on Wikipedia" ;-)
Andrew.
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:53 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.ukwrote:
Definitely agree that we needed something like this. There's a lot of confusion about what Wikidata is for, and what is and isn't appropriate for it - both from outsiders and from within the Wikimedia community. I've seen vague "it's data, it'll go on Wikidata" a few times, which is a bit like saying "it's text, it'll go on Wikipedia" ;-)
Actually during the Hackathon somebody said: "We need a new project... a sort of Wiki...Data...Source?" :D And it is great that you make the analogy of Wikipedia-and-Text because when you think about it, Wikipedia went through exactly the same process until "Project Sourceberg" was characterized ;-)
Micru
Thanks Micru! I think we should start by including datasets on wikisource, with descriptions about them (storing the files on commons where possible). And adding more data formats to the formats accepted on commons.
Other tools can follow later.
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:25 AM, David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
During the Zürich Hackathon I met several people that looked for solutions about how to integrate external open datasets into our projects (mainly Wikipedia, Wikidata). Since Wikidata is not the right tool to manage them (reasons explained in the RFC as discussed during the Wikidata session), I have felt convenient to centralize the discussion about potential requirements, needs, and how to approach this new changing landscape that didn't exist a few years ago.
You will find more details here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/How_to_deal_with_open_d...
Your comments, thoughts and ideas are appreciated!
Cheers, Micru _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocristian@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the pointer, "How can I put this open data on Wikidata is a question that I have been asked many times", this page was needed.
Thanks for your comment!
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Micru! I think we should start by including datasets on wikisource, with descriptions about them (storing the files on commons where possible). And adding more data formats to the formats accepted on commons.
I don't follow you... why would you put datasets on Wikisource when they are only used in Wikipedia and have to be stored somewhere else? As it is now, it doesn't seem a good dataset management solution. Besides that it would conflict with its identity as repository for textual sources.. About Commons I don't know if it is relevant to their mission as a sharing media platform either... I hope someone from their community can share their views.
Thanks for the input, Micru