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On 01/11/13 23:27, Chris Steipp wrote:
Since we have CORS, javascript on the wikipedia page could make the update directly in wikidata. I'd let the wikidata / ve people decide if that's desirable, but it's possible.
Maybe yes, but wikidata allows different opinions. How do you decide, if the chunk of text replaced in VE should replace the data or if it should be just adding it by another chunk of data.
Just a few examples:
1. Replacement:
a) data gets clearer We did not knew the exact number of killed/injured people of a big accident/catastrophes relevant for all Wikipedias (also the German one ;-) ) recently after it happend. Fucushima would be an example or a big Earth quake like in Haiti.
With the time you will get an exact number, because it needed some time to figure this out and the number changes as some more people die afterwards initially caused by the accident.
Articles are created very soon after anything like that. In the beginning they use the data populated also by the media. With the time this will get clearer and the data will turn more precise. So also those values need to be changed.
b) Wrong entered data: Sometimes it happens, however, that somebody enter wrong data. This can happen intentionally and just by accident. If you change this data in the VE, you definitely have to replace this on Wikidata.
2. Additional Information:
There is an election in a country. The former president was not reelected. If this is changed on Wikidata, the information should not be replaced on Wikidata, it should be added with the qualifier "since:date" and the previous value should be altered by "until:date"
In the end all edits in by authors in the current editor and in the visual one will are just tracked as changes, but how do you decide weather to replace the information or add it?
Marco
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckinger@wikipedia.at wrote:
Hi,
I would assume that there will be something like a shortcut or a button like "integrate Wikidata-property here", where you could inline search for this.
Internally i could immagine a list where all items are tracked and a<span class="wikidata" id="wikidata_key"> where the id of this html-tag is the key in the internal list.
Marco
On 01/11/13 21:32, Strainu wrote:
Hi,
Starting from a very different problem, I found myself asking a very strange question: How will the Visual Editor interact with Wikidata?
Namely, let's say that somebody is editing the article about Romania in the visual editor. The article contains an infobox with all the data brought from Wikidata. The user will edit one of those fields (say, the president's name). Will that change automatically be reflected back to Wikidata? If not, will it be even possible to edit those fields? If the change is pushed to Wikidata, how are conflicts handled (2 users editing the president's name on different wikis during a very crowded period when changes take a while to replicate and one of them makes a mistake)?
I seem to remember that wikidata edit-in-place is planned for phase II, but I always assumed this would happen using some kind of popup window, which kindof beats the purpose of a visual editor.
Thanks, Strainu
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