Hoi, A mix of maps Wikidata and DBpedia.. I wonder what DBpedia has that we do not. Thanks, GerardM
My mindreading skills tell me that you forgot to add this link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/12180516/Geography-of-violence-Map...
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:58 AM Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, A mix of maps Wikidata and DBpedia.. I wonder what DBpedia has that we do not. Thanks, GerardM _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Hoi, Yup I missed that one.. this [1] was my source :) Gerard
[1] http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35685889
On 2 March 2016 at 20:07, Denny Vrandečić vrandecic@gmail.com wrote:
My mindreading skills tell me that you forgot to add this link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/12180516/Geography-of-violence-Map...
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:58 AM Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, A mix of maps Wikidata and DBpedia.. I wonder what DBpedia has that we do not. Thanks, GerardM _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 8:14 PM Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Yup I missed that one.. this [1] was my source :) Gerard
This is really great. I am thrilled about this because this isn't coverage about Wikidata but coverage _with_ Wikidata on major news sites for the second time this week ( http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/kino/academy-awards-die-oscars-von-192... being the other one). They're using Wikidata data to do meaningful reporting. Our data and the project as a whole got (at the very least) good enough for this. It feels to me like we've broken through a wall. High5 everyone! :D
Cheers Lydia
"They found 12,703 battles which had an exact location and date, 2,657 of them are from Wikidata, the others are from DPpedia."
Maybe we can do better?
Am 02.03.2016 um 22:14 schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 8:14 PM Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, Yup I missed that one.. this [1] was my source :) Gerard [1] http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35685889This is really great. I am thrilled about this because this isn't coverage about Wikidata but coverage _with_ Wikidata on major news sites for the second time this week (http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/kino/academy-awards-die-oscars-von-192... being the other one). They're using Wikidata data to do meaningful reporting. Our data and the project as a whole got (at the very least) good enough for this. It feels to me like we've broken through a wall. High5 everyone! :D
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Depends how good the DBpedia data really is - as the BBC article says, some 2007 football match in the UK was extracted as a "Battle"...
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:54 PM Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinzler@wikimedia.de wrote:
"They found 12,703 battles which had an exact location and date, 2,657 of them are from Wikidata, the others are from DPpedia."
Maybe we can do better?
Am 02.03.2016 um 22:14 schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 8:14 PM Gerard Meijssen <
gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, Yup I missed that one.. this [1] was my source :) Gerard [1] http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35685889This is really great. I am thrilled about this because this isn't
coverage about
Wikidata but coverage _with_ Wikidata on major news sites for the second
time
this week (
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/kino/academy-awards-die-oscars-von-192... being
the other one). They're using Wikidata data to do meaningful reporting.
Our data
and the project as a whole got (at the very least) good enough for this.
It
feels to me like we've broken through a wall. High5 everyone! :D
Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de http://www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter der
Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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(and to make it clear, it is unclear whether this is an error due to DBpedia or due to the companies extraction framework, I was not diving into the data)
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:59 PM Denny Vrandečić vrandecic@gmail.com wrote:
Depends how good the DBpedia data really is - as the BBC article says, some 2007 football match in the UK was extracted as a "Battle"...
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:54 PM Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinzler@wikimedia.de wrote:
"They found 12,703 battles which had an exact location and date, 2,657 of them are from Wikidata, the others are from DPpedia."
Maybe we can do better?
Am 02.03.2016 um 22:14 schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 8:14 PM Gerard Meijssen <
gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, Yup I missed that one.. this [1] was my source :) Gerard [1] http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35685889This is really great. I am thrilled about this because this isn't
coverage about
Wikidata but coverage _with_ Wikidata on major news sites for the
second time
this week (
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/kino/academy-awards-die-oscars-von-192... being
the other one). They're using Wikidata data to do meaningful reporting.
Our data
and the project as a whole got (at the very least) good enough for
this. It
feels to me like we've broken through a wall. High5 everyone! :D
Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de http://www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter der
Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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We have bad data too.
Until very recently, a number of suburbs of South London had P31 = battle, for no apparent reason.
(Presumably, because a parameter hadn't been updated in a script being used to extract from templates or a category).
Battles (I think) are something that haven't been extracted very systematically -- I was hoping for better coverage, because quite a lot of the maps in the British Library georeferencing project are maps of battlefields, but I found it wasn't very good. (Another problem even then is that really I would have needed the extent of the battlefield, rather than just central co-ordinates, and that information is currently almost totally lacking).
Had Freebase done much extraction of battlefield info? I do rather agree with Gerard and Tom, that I had hoped the Freebase migration would have brought with it rather more of the information extractable from Wikipedia categories.
-- James.
On 02/03/2016 22:00, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
(and to make it clear, it is unclear whether this is an error due to DBpedia or due to the companies extraction framework, I was not diving into the data)
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:59 PM Denny Vrandečić vrandecic@gmail.com wrote:
Depends how good the DBpedia data really is - as the BBC article says, some 2007 football match in the UK was extracted as a "Battle"...
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 5:45 PM, James Heald j.heald@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
Had Freebase done much extraction of battlefield info?
They did some, e.g. Military Conflict data extracted from Wikipedia Infoboxes, April 24 2012 https://www.freebase.com/m/0jbcvt2 (which also shows the type of detailed provenance info they keep for bulk data loads). There are 5,581 battles https://www.freebase.com/queryeditor?lang=%2Flang%2Fen&q=%5B%7B%22id%22%3Anull%2C%22name%22%3Anull%2C%22type%22%3A%22%2Fmilitary%2Fbattle%22%2C%22%2Fmilitary%2Fmilitary_conflict%2Flocations%22%3A%5B%7B%22id%22%3Anull%2C%22name%22%3Anull%2C%22%2Flocation%2Flocation%2Fgeolocation%22%3A%7B%22type%22%3A%22%2Flocation%2Fgeocode%22%2C%22longitude%22%3Anull%2C%22latitude%22%3Anull%2C%22elevation%22%3Anull%7D%7D%5D%2C%22%2Ftime%2Fevent%2Fstart_date%22%3Anull%2C%22%2Ftime%2Fevent%2Fend_date%22%3Anull%2C%22return%22%3A%22count%22%7D%5D (a subset of the 10,529 military conflicts https://www.freebase.com/queryeditor?lang=%2Flang%2Fen&q=%5B%7B%22id%22%3Anull%2C%22name%22%3Anull%2C%22type%22%3A%22%2Fmilitary%2Fmilitary_conflict%22%2C%22%2Fmilitary%2Fmilitary_conflict%2Flocations%22%3A%5B%7B%22id%22%3Anull%2C%22name%22%3Anull%2C%22%2Flocation%2Flocation%2Fgeolocation%22%3A%7B%22type%22%3A%22%2Flocation%2Fgeocode%22%2C%22longitude%22%3Anull%2C%22latitude%22%3Anull%2C%22elevation%22%3Anull%7D%7D%5D%2C%22%2Ftime%2Fevent%2Fstart_date%22%3Anull%2C%22%2Ftime%2Fevent%2Fend_date%22%3Anull%2C%22return%22%3A%22count%22%7D%5D). There's a list of all the military conflicts available here https://www.freebase.com/military/military_conflict?instances=, but now that Freebase is read-only there isn't an easy way to generate a table of dates & locations through the GUI, so some (a tiny bit) of programming would be required to extract the info.
Tom
I remember seeing a question from someone asking about dates-of-battles a few months ago; I don't know if it was related to this.
One issue that came up in the discussion is that a lot of battles don't have a "date" - instead, they have a "start date" and "end date". (This is more of an issue in the last couple of centuries; not many older battles lasted more than a day).
It looks like they've managed to cope with this - for example, their system picked up https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q911448 which has start and end - but it's a good reminder that eg/ looking for "date" may not always tell you quite what you expect on the first glance :-)
Andrew.
On 2 March 2016 at 21:53, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinzler@wikimedia.de wrote:
"They found 12,703 battles which had an exact location and date, 2,657 of them are from Wikidata, the others are from DPpedia."
Maybe we can do better?
Am 02.03.2016 um 22:14 schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 8:14 PM Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, Yup I missed that one.. this [1] was my source :) Gerard [1] http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35685889This is really great. I am thrilled about this because this isn't coverage about Wikidata but coverage _with_ Wikidata on major news sites for the second time this week (http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/kino/academy-awards-die-oscars-von-192... being the other one). They're using Wikidata data to do meaningful reporting. Our data and the project as a whole got (at the very least) good enough for this. It feels to me like we've broken through a wall. High5 everyone! :D
Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata
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