Hello,
I've noticed that there are a lot of script errors towards the bottom of Wikidata:List of properties/Summary table
I suspect that this is caused by the same thing mentioned in this email: https://www.mail-archive.com/wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org/msg02756.html
Is there anything that can be done about this at all? This is an incredibly useful list and it's sad to only be able to see half of it. Should the page just be split?
Thank you,
Derric Atzrott
Computer Specialist
Alizee Pathology
On 10/06/14 15:27, Derric Atzrott wrote:
Hello,
I’ve noticed that there are a lot of script errors towards the bottom of Wikidata:List of properties/Summary table
You might also find the new property browser helpful:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-exports/miga/
(as mentioned before, requires one of Google Chrome, Safari, Opera, or Android Browser to work).
Cheers,
Markus
I suspect that this is caused by the same thing mentioned in this email: https://www.mail-archive.com/wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org/msg02756.html
Is there anything that can be done about this at all? This is an incredibly useful list and it’s sad to only be able to see half of it. Should the page just be split?
Thank you,
Derric Atzrott
Computer Specialist
Alizee Pathology
Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
You might also find the new property browser helpful:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-exports/miga/
(as mentioned before, requires one of Google Chrome, Safari, Opera, or Android Browser to work).
While an excellent list and a neat tool, it sadly isn't organised in a way that fits my needs. I just needed a simple list organised by type of object that I could refer back to in order to make sure that I don't miss properties for which I do have data.
I am pleased though that your tool gives the actual name of the properties though. In some of the property proposal discussions on Wikidata the property has not actually been named the exact same name as what was proposed, which can be quite confusing when you go to use it.
Thank you, Derric Atzrott
On 11/06/14 17:13, Derric Atzrott wrote:
You might also find the new property browser helpful:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-exports/miga/
(as mentioned before, requires one of Google Chrome, Safari, Opera, or Android Browser to work).
While an excellent list and a neat tool, it sadly isn't organised in a way that fits my needs. I just needed a simple list organised by type of object that I could refer back to in order to make sure that I don't miss properties for which I do have data.
I am pleased though that your tool gives the actual name of the properties though. In some of the property proposal discussions on Wikidata the property has not actually been named the exact same name as what was proposed, which can be quite confusing when you go to use it.
Yes, I know what you mean. I'd love to integrate property "group" information into our view as well, but I don't know where to get this information from (other than by scraping it from the wiki page, which does not seem to be right). Any pointers to where these groups are managed?
Regards,
Markus
Am 11.06.2014 17:27, schrieb Markus Krötzsch:
Yes, I know what you mean. I'd love to integrate property "group" information into our view as well, but I don't know where to get this information from (other than by scraping it from the wiki page, which does not seem to be right). Any pointers to where these groups are managed?
Currently information about properties is only stored on their talk pages but I think the wikidata development team is working on claims for properties so we can store such information in a more structured way. However, I am not sure how soon this will be released.
Regards, Bene
PS: Someone who knows the tracking bug for this around?
Found the bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49554
See also https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Development_plan#Statements_on_proper...
Am 11.06.2014 20:49, schrieb Bene*:
Am 11.06.2014 17:27, schrieb Markus Krötzsch:
Yes, I know what you mean. I'd love to integrate property "group" information into our view as well, but I don't know where to get this information from (other than by scraping it from the wiki page, which does not seem to be right). Any pointers to where these groups are managed?
Currently information about properties is only stored on their talk pages but I think the wikidata development team is working on claims for properties so we can store such information in a more structured way. However, I am not sure how soon this will be released.
Regards, Bene
PS: Someone who knows the tracking bug for this around?
On 11/06/14 20:49, Bene* wrote:
Am 11.06.2014 17:27, schrieb Markus Krötzsch:
Yes, I know what you mean. I'd love to integrate property "group" information into our view as well, but I don't know where to get this information from (other than by scraping it from the wiki page, which does not seem to be right). Any pointers to where these groups are managed?
Currently information about properties is only stored on their talk pages but I think the wikidata development team is working on claims for properties so we can store such information in a more structured way.
I know, but, for example, P303 is listed under "animal breeds" on
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Summary_table
whereas I cannot find this information on:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P303
I wonder if this information is really anywhere else but in the code of the bot maintainer ...
Regards,
Markus
However, I am not sure how soon this will be released.
Regards, Bene
PS: Someone who knows the tracking bug for this around?
Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Markus Krötzsch < markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
On 11/06/14 20:49, Bene* wrote:
Am 11.06.2014 17:27, schrieb Markus Krötzsch:
Yes, I know what you mean. I'd love to integrate property "group" information into our view as well, but I don't know where to get this information from (other than by scraping it from the wiki page, which does not seem to be right). Any pointers to where these groups are managed?
Currently information about properties is only stored on their talk pages but I think the wikidata development team is working on claims for properties so we can store such information in a more structured way.
I know, but, for example, P303 is listed under "animal breeds" on
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Summary_table
whereas I cannot find this information on:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P303
I wonder if this information is really anywhere else but in the code of the bot maintainer ...
speaking unofficially...
These pages are maintained are using lua (@note in a bit hacky way, loading the raw json contents in the "internal" format). I don't think a bot is involved, afaik.
That's also the reason for the script errors, doing too many expensive lua calls on a single page. I do notice the number of script errors is less than it used to be.
Solutions might be to allow less hacky ways to access property info in lua, although not so trivial / quick to be able to implement this afaik.
A special page is another option though it might not be as flexible in allowing free form contents vs a simple list with and filterable by data type etc.
Otherwise, maybe a bot can help?
Cheers, Katie
Regards,
Markus
However, I am not sure how soon this will be released.
Regards, Bene
PS: Someone who knows the tracking bug for this around?
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The bot operator seems to parse the content of the Wikidata:List of properties https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Summary_table subpages, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/BetaBot_.... So the P303 is listed under "animal breeds" because it is also listed there on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Terms#Animal_breed.... This obviously is not a good place to store such data but I am sure once we have claims for properties we will be able to parse this and add the information to the properties it belongs to.
Am 11.06.2014 20:57, schrieb Markus Krötzsch:
On 11/06/14 20:49, Bene* wrote:
Am 11.06.2014 17:27, schrieb Markus Krötzsch:
Yes, I know what you mean. I'd love to integrate property "group" information into our view as well, but I don't know where to get this information from (other than by scraping it from the wiki page, which does not seem to be right). Any pointers to where these groups are managed?
Currently information about properties is only stored on their talk pages but I think the wikidata development team is working on claims for properties so we can store such information in a more structured way.
I know, but, for example, P303 is listed under "animal breeds" on
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Summary_table
whereas I cannot find this information on:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P303
I wonder if this information is really anywhere else but in the code of the bot maintainer ...
Regards,
Markus
However, I am not sure how soon this will be released.
Regards, Bene
PS: Someone who knows the tracking bug for this around?
Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Bene* benestar.wikimedia@gmail.com wrote:
The bot operator seems to parse the content of the Wikidata:List of properties https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Summary_table subpages, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/BetaBot_.... So the P303 is listed under "animal breeds" because it is also listed there on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Terms#Animal_breed.... This obviously is not a good place to store such data but I am sure once we have claims for properties we will be able to parse this and add the information to the properties it belongs to.
sorry, though we were talking about https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/all which has also been problematic yet is / has potential to be very useful.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Summary_table is maintained by a bot (as well as lua, which explains the script errors)
Cheers, Katie
Am 11.06.2014 20:57, schrieb Markus Krötzsch:
On 11/06/14 20:49, Bene* wrote:
Am 11.06.2014 17:27, schrieb Markus Krötzsch:
Yes, I know what you mean. I'd love to integrate property "group" information into our view as well, but I don't know where to get this information from (other than by scraping it from the wiki page, which does not seem to be right). Any pointers to where these groups are managed?
Currently information about properties is only stored on their talk pages but I think the wikidata development team is working on claims for properties so we can store such information in a more structured way.
I know, but, for example, P303 is listed under "animal breeds" on
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Summary_table
whereas I cannot find this information on:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P303
I wonder if this information is really anywhere else but in the code of the bot maintainer ...
Regards,
Markus
However, I am not sure how soon this will be released.
Regards, Bene
PS: Someone who knows the tracking bug for this around?
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:17 PM, aude aude.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Bene* benestar.wikimedia@gmail.com wrote:
The bot operator seems to parse the content of the Wikidata:List of properties https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Summary_table subpages, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/BetaBot_.... So the P303 is listed under "animal breeds" because it is also listed there on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Terms#Animal_breed.... This obviously is not a good place to store such data but I am sure once we have claims for properties we will be able to parse this and add the information to the properties it belongs to.
sorry, though we were talking about https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/all which has also been problematic yet is / has potential to be very useful.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Summary_table is maintained by a bot (as well as lua, which explains the script errors)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47071 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55570 are the relevant bugs
Katie
Cheers, Katie
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