Being a high school (15) student who likes programming, I often develop software to help me (&fellow students) study. In two days time we have a history exam with a ton of dates to learn, so I began thinking of a way to represent it in an axis via a web page.
And Wikidata came to my head. I guess it could be really useful, given the property system (it could take into account single events and also periods such as wars). I'll try to do it (obviously, I'm now in term exams though it could be an incredible way to procrastinate...), but anyway, is there any interest in this? I guess it could replace the current rather awkward-looking axes.
From a technical viewpoint, could it be feasible to make it as an extension
to Mediawiki which displays HTML5? I have some experience with MediaWiki's PHP but not much.
Thanks in advance, and sorry for my non-native Englisn,
Joan Creus.
Hi Joan, It seems that historical event is on the proposed property list: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal#Historical_Event_.2F... has been more than three days, so my understanding is that it can be officially created now so people can start adding them to the database. Someone else will have to answer your question about extending Mediawiki to render timelines automatically though. On the database side, we would just have to make sure there is enough granularity in the database (for example under the domain for the historical event as currently proposed) to allow the software to find just the dates that are relevant for a specific article. Michael
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:11:33 +0100 From: joan.creus.c@gmail.com To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikidata-l] Chronological axes in Wikidata
Being a high school (15) student who likes programming, I often develop software to help me (&fellow students) study. In two days time we have a history exam with a ton of dates to learn, so I began thinking of a way to represent it in an axis via a web page.
And Wikidata came to my head. I guess it could be really useful, given the property system (it could take into account single events and also periods such as wars). I'll try to do it (obviously, I'm now in term exams though it could be an incredible way to procrastinate...), but anyway, is there any interest in this? I guess it could replace the current rather awkward-looking axes.
From a technical viewpoint, could it be feasible to make it as an extension to Mediawiki which displays HTML5? I have some experience with MediaWiki's PHP but not much.
Thanks in advance, and sorry for my non-native Englisn, Joan Creus.
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Okay. I had two options in mind, though I'm not sure about which is best: 1) in the embedding code, write a list of all the Wikidata pages. 2) or tag Wikidata pages (like a category, maybe even a category) and simply pass this category as parameter. This would be translation-friendly, the updates being in sync across all language.
Or maybe another option, I don't really know.
Joan. El 06/03/2013 15:24, "Michael Hale" hale.michael.jr@live.com va escriure:
Hi Joan,
It seems that historical event is on the proposed property list: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal#Historical_Event_.2F... It has been more than three days, so my understanding is that it can be officially created now so people can start adding them to the database. Someone else will have to answer your question about extending Mediawiki to render timelines automatically though. On the database side, we would just have to make sure there is enough granularity in the database (for example under the domain for the historical event as currently proposed) to allow the software to find just the dates that are relevant for a specific article.
Michael
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:11:33 +0100 From: joan.creus.c@gmail.com To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikidata-l] Chronological axes in Wikidata
Being a high school (15) student who likes programming, I often develop software to help me (&fellow students) study. In two days time we have a history exam with a ton of dates to learn, so I began thinking of a way to represent it in an axis via a web page.
And Wikidata came to my head. I guess it could be really useful, given the property system (it could take into account single events and also periods such as wars). I'll try to do it (obviously, I'm now in term exams though it could be an incredible way to procrastinate...), but anyway, is there any interest in this? I guess it could replace the current rather awkward-looking axes.
From a technical viewpoint, could it be feasible to make it as an extension to Mediawiki which displays HTML5? I have some experience with MediaWiki's PHP but not much.
Thanks in advance, and sorry for my non-native Englisn,
Joan Creus.
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The problem with the first is that the article pages would then still have to be manually updated in each language every time new data is added. The goal is to design Wikidata so that can be avoided whenever possible, so your second option is best. It seems the current proposal intends the domain statement to be synonymous with category. I think we would want the data type of that statement to be another item in Wikidata (such as airline accident or war). Then the translations could be automated.
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:29:20 +0100 From: joan.creus.c@gmail.com To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Chronological axes in Wikidata
Okay. I had two options in mind, though I'm not sure about which is best:
1) in the embedding code, write a list of all the Wikidata pages.
2) or tag Wikidata pages (like a category, maybe even a category) and simply pass this category as parameter. This would be translation-friendly, the updates being in sync across all language. Or maybe another option, I don't really know. Joan. El 06/03/2013 15:24, "Michael Hale" hale.michael.jr@live.com va escriure:
Hi Joan, It seems that historical event is on the proposed property list: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal#Historical_Event_.2F... It has been more than three days, so my understanding is that it can be officially created now so people can start adding them to the database. Someone else will have to answer your question about extending Mediawiki to render timelines automatically though. On the database side, we would just have to make sure there is enough granularity in the database (for example under the domain for the historical event as currently proposed) to allow the software to find just the dates that are relevant for a specific article.
Michael
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:11:33 +0100 From: joan.creus.c@gmail.com To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikidata-l] Chronological axes in Wikidata
Being a high school (15) student who likes programming, I often develop software to help me (&fellow students) study. In two days time we have a history exam with a ton of dates to learn, so I began thinking of a way to represent it in an axis via a web page.
And Wikidata came to my head. I guess it could be really useful, given the property system (it could take into account single events and also periods such as wars). I'll try to do it (obviously, I'm now in term exams though it could be an incredible way to procrastinate...), but anyway, is there any interest in this? I guess it could replace the current rather awkward-looking axes.
From a technical viewpoint, could it be feasible to make it as an extension to Mediawiki which displays HTML5? I have some experience with MediaWiki's PHP but not much.
Thanks in advance, and sorry for my non-native Englisn, Joan Creus.
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Would be something like Chrono Zoom[1] ?
[1]http://www.chronozoomproject.org/
2013/3/6 Michael Hale hale.michael.jr@live.com
The problem with the first is that the article pages would then still have to be manually updated in each language every time new data is added. The goal is to design Wikidata so that can be avoided whenever possible, so your second option is best. It seems the current proposal intends the domain statement to be synonymous with category. I think we would want the data type of that statement to be another item in Wikidata (such as airline accident or war). Then the translations could be automated.
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:29:20 +0100 From: joan.creus.c@gmail.com To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Chronological axes in Wikidata
Okay. I had two options in mind, though I'm not sure about which is best:
- in the embedding code, write a list of all the Wikidata pages.
- or tag Wikidata pages (like a category, maybe even a category) and
simply pass this category as parameter. This would be translation-friendly, the updates being in sync across all language.
Or maybe another option, I don't really know.
Joan. El 06/03/2013 15:24, "Michael Hale" hale.michael.jr@live.com va escriure:
Hi Joan,
It seems that historical event is on the proposed property list: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal#Historical_Event_.2F... It has been more than three days, so my understanding is that it can be officially created now so people can start adding them to the database. Someone else will have to answer your question about extending Mediawiki to render timelines automatically though. On the database side, we would just have to make sure there is enough granularity in the database (for example under the domain for the historical event as currently proposed) to allow the software to find just the dates that are relevant for a specific article.
Michael
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:11:33 +0100 From: joan.creus.c@gmail.com To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikidata-l] Chronological axes in Wikidata
Being a high school (15) student who likes programming, I often develop software to help me (&fellow students) study. In two days time we have a history exam with a ton of dates to learn, so I began thinking of a way to represent it in an axis via a web page.
And Wikidata came to my head. I guess it could be really useful, given the property system (it could take into account single events and also periods such as wars). I'll try to do it (obviously, I'm now in term exams though it could be an incredible way to procrastinate...), but anyway, is there any interest in this? I guess it could replace the current rather awkward-looking axes.
From a technical viewpoint, could it be feasible to make it as an extension to Mediawiki which displays HTML5? I have some experience with MediaWiki's PHP but not much.
Thanks in advance, and sorry for my non-native Englisn,
Joan Creus.
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