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Re: [Wikidata] Hello Wikidata!

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Brill Lyle

5 Aug 2016 5 Aug '16

5:50 p.m.

I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for manually inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikipedia to Wikidata for new pages that have no associated Wikidata item. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Authority_control Wasn't sure if it is okay to create a page on Wikidata, but I followed the Be Bold! mantra and just went for it. And again this is not the most elegant solution, but I wanted there to be some sort of graphic documentation on how to update Authority Control. Best, - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>*

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john cummings

5 Aug 5 Aug

6:28 p.m.

Hey Erika One suggestion, add a step before creating a new item on Wikidata of searching for an existing item, it may be an item exists but isn't linked to Wikipedia. Thanks John On 5 August 2016 at 19:50, Brill Lyle <wp.brilllyle(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Andrew Gray

7:09 p.m.

On 5 August 2016 at 19:28, john cummings <mrjohncummings(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hey Erika One suggestion, add a step before creating a new item on Wikidata of searching for an existing item, it may be an item exists but isn't linked to Wikipedia.

With authority control, that may be a self-repairing a problem - if you add an identifier that already exists on another item, it'll be automatically logged and flagged on the constraints report. These get pruned every now and again, so the duplicate record will get fixed in time. See, for example, a few examples (which are probably my fault!) at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violatio… Andrew. - Andrew Gray andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk

Brill Lyle

7:15 p.m.

I forgot about the duplicate issue. I think the assumption here is a new Wikipedia page -- which is what we encounter at many of the editathons here in NYC -- and how to get Authority control in as a new Wikidata item, but I think I will footnote this.... Thanks! - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Andrew Gray <andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk> wrote:

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On 5 August 2016 at 19:28, john cummings <mrjohncummings(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Erika One suggestion, add a step before creating a new item on Wikidata of searching for an existing item, it may be an item exists but isn't

linked to

Wikipedia.

With authority control, that may be a self-repairing a problem - if you add an identifier that already exists on another item, it'll be automatically logged and flagged on the constraints report. These get pruned every now and again, so the duplicate record will get fixed in time. See, for example, a few examples (which are probably my fault!) at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/ Constraint_violations/P1614#.22Unique_value.22_violations Andrew. - Andrew Gray andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata

Brill Lyle

7:11 p.m.

Good suggestion. Done. *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:28 PM, john cummings <mrjohncummings(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Andy Mabbett

6:29 p.m.

On 5 August 2016 at 18:50, Brill Lyle <wp.brilllyle(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Looks good! I will certainly make use of this in my training sessions.. I would move your step 7 above the current step 5. I would also add a note that other statements should be added, not least P31 ("instance of") => Q5 ("human"). It's good practise to check for duplicates before creating an item, but I think it's safe to omit that step, in a case like this, in a simple guide for Wikidata newbies. Thanks for putting in the effort. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Brill Lyle

7:13 p.m.

Very smart. Done. I didn't want to get into adding statements and other elements to Wikidata as it somewhat outside the scope of the Authority control thing, but Maybe I should link to the Tours. I founds those helpful. Thank you! *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

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On 5 August 2016 at 18:50, Brill Lyle <wp.brilllyle(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for

manually

inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikipedia to

Wikidata

for new pages that have no associated Wikidata item. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Authority_control

Brill Lyle

7:45 p.m.

Andy and others -- Would it be helpful if I did a slide deck that has this as a printable / projectable document? I could generate that if it might be useful. - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

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On 5 August 2016 at 18:50, Brill Lyle <wp.brilllyle(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for

manually

inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikipedia to

Wikidata

for new pages that have no associated Wikidata item. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Authority_control

Brill Lyle

6 Aug 6 Aug

1:15 a.m.

Here's drafts of a color deck (for projection) and a grayscale deck (for printing) https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/2016-08-05-AuthorityCon… https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/2016-08-05-AuthorityCon… Suggestions welcome! - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilllyle(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 5 August 2016 at 18:50, Brill Lyle <wp.brilllyle(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for

manually

inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikipedia to

Wikidata

for new pages that have no associated Wikidata item. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Authority_control

Brill Lyle

5 Aug 5 Aug

7:43 p.m.

Wanted to also add that I understand: There are bots that - Harvest new articles - Add items for new articles - Harvest authority control data This is for casual Wikipedians -- especially librarians who like Authority control and are creating stubs at editathons -- to start to learn how to create a linked entry and edit Authority control on Wikidata. Something quick and sequential so they might get an overview and translation of the cross-walk between Wikipedia and Wikidata. Gerard M. and I had an off list conversation about this and he thinks it is not a valuable effort (see bots above). So that's why I wanted to mention this usage. Also when I want to have the new Wikipedia stub have the Authority control, I can never use the steps. I am old and tired and need everything written down. :-) - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilllyle(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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