On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 1:03 AM Tom Morris <tfmorris(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm confused by this from today's Wikidata
- New request for comments: Semi-automatic Addition of References to
Wikidata Statements - feedback on the Primary Sources Tool
First of all, the title makes no sense because "semi-automatic addition of
references to Wikidata statements" is one of the main things that the tool
can't currently do. You'll almost always end up with duplicate statements
if there's an existing statement, rather than the desired behavior of just
adding the statement.
Second, I'm not sure who "Hjfocs" is (why does everyone have to make up
fake wikinames?), but why are they asking for more feedback when there's
been *ample* feedback already? There hasn't been an issue with getting
people to test the tool or provide feedback based on the testing. The issue
has been with getting anyone to *act* on the feedback. Everything is a)
"too hard," or b) "beyond our resources," or depends on something in
category a or b, or is incompatible with the arbitrary implementation
scheme chosen, or some other excuse.
We're 12-18+ months into the project, depending on how you measure, and
not only is the tool not usable yet, but it's no longer improving, so I
think it's time to take a step back and ask some fundamental questions.
- Is the current data pipeline and front end gadget the right approach and
the right technology for this task? Can they be fixed to be suitable for
- If so, should Google continue to have sole responsibility for it or
should it be transferred to the Wikidata team or someone else who'll
actually work on it?
- If not, what should the data pipeline and tooling look like to make
maximum use of the Freebase data?
The whole project needs a reboot.
I realize you are upset but you are really barking up the wrong tree. Marco
is trying to give the whole thing more structure and sort through all the
requests to find a way forward. He is actually doing something constructive
about the issues you are raising.
Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher
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