On 31/03/14 22:46, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Yes, good point. Posted the message there too now. Cheers Markus

Hi Denny, There's a "DumpProcessingExample<https://github.com/Wikidata/Wikidata-Toolkit/blob/v0.1.0/wdtk-examples/src/main/java/org/wikidata/wdtk/examples/DumpProcessingExample.java> " here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_Toolkit Cheers, Scott On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Denny Vrandečić &lt;vrandecic(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.html - World University and School - like Wikipedia with MIT OpenCourseWare (not endorsed by MIT OCW) - incorporated as a nonprofit effective April 2010.

Hoi, What is the relevance of these tools when you have to have specialised environments to use them ? Thanks, GerardM On 9 April 2014 10:41, Daniel Kinzler &lt;daniel.kinzler(a)wikimedia.de&gt; wrote:

Hi Denny, hi Daniel, hi all, Welcome to Java :-) (more useful answers below) On 09/04/14 10:41, Daniel Kinzler wrote: First, the quick answer to Denny: """ Change to the directory of the example module (wdtk-examples), then run: mvn exec:java -Dexec.mainClass="org.wikidata.wdtk.examples.DumpProcessingExample" """ Anyway, this is not something one would normally do. Some clarifications seem to be needed here. The examples we have are not applications that you would ever want to run. They don't do anything really useful (yet). The purpose of the examples is to give Java developers a practical, well, example on how to use the Wikidata Toolkit library. Since Wikidata Toolkit is a library for Java, it is somehow presumed that you already know how to run a Java application when you look into it ;-) Normally, every Java developer has some preferred way in which she will normally do this, usually through her IDE. If you are new to Java, I would recommend you to start with a little tutorial (there are plenty on the Web) and to use Eclipse (there are other good IDEs for Java, but Eclipse is a safe bet if you don't know your needs yet). We have detailed instructions on the homepage how to install git and maven support for Eclipse so that it can do everything for you [1]. An Eclipse user could run the examples, for example, by: right click on file -> Run as -> Java application. The "major annoyance" that Daniel remarked on is simply that there is no single main application here. There can (and will) be many examples, so naturally you have to tell Java which program to run. Doing this on the command line is not convenient due to the long strings, but then again that is not something you would normally do (and if you do, you could create a one-line script with the command I gave above ;-). In the future, we might have actual applications that are useful as stand-alone tools. When this happens, we will of course provide suitable stand-alone packages where you only need to run a single "main" file to start the tool. This is also what people would do who use the library to develop their own stand-alone applications. But if you want to work with a multi-module library, you probably don't want an all-in-one package that uses third party dependencies that you don't want or need. Anyway, all hints on packaging are really appreciated -- our goal is to provide packages that are most useful to you. We just started with the obvious standard packages but we could create more specific bundles for relevant applications. As we move along in alpha phase, these things might still change quite a bit, of course ... ;-) Cheers Markus [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_Toolkit/Eclipse_setup

Hi Markus, On Wed Apr 09 2014 at 4:18:50 AM, Markus Krötzsch < markus(a)semantic-mediawiki.org&gt; wrote: Thanks, that is exactly what I needed! :) I understand that WDTK is a library to be used in your own applications, but I am often not patient enough to actually go and code up a whole app myself in a new dev environment before I actually see that the thing is running. So being able to actually start and run the example application is superuseful for my motivation, because now I can go ahead and tinker with it while it is running, and iteratively change it to what I want. Thanks again for the prompt and useful answer! It works like a charm now! Cheers, Denny