I have worked on Commons a bit and was already thinking how could Wikidata be integrated into it. On 21/01/13 12:55, Denny Vrandečić wrote: I don't think category links would any longer be represented in wikitext, but each image description page would be a wikidata item. Wikidata already has various de facto "statement groups" (I'm sorry I'm not up to the newest terminology so I'm not sure how are they called). The data in the groups are edited independently of each other, and also displayed in various ways. Right now, there are two groups: labels and wikilinks. Labels are displayed as article titles and only one label is displayed at the time, while wikilinks are displayed in a table and multiple wikilinks are displayed at once. But there is no need to stick to this organization, and various wikis in various namespaces could have different statement groups that could be displayed in various ways. For example, it would be possible that, on Commons, in Image namespace, have three groups: image description, image properties, and image categories. Image description would be displayed and edited similar to Wikidata label: only in the current interface language. Image properties would be displayed and edited as wikidata properties will be. Image categories would be displayed and edited as categories. Image metadata might tie into all of this as well: these would be special properties that are not directly editable but filled in on image upload. Similarly, every category would be an item. Category titles in various languages would be handled exactly the same as Wikidata labels. A category would have its supercategories as properties. About the only potential problem that I see is that in some cases categorization is made logically, and in some cases linguistically. For example, on Commons, [[:Category:Tree rings]] is a subcategory of [[:Category:Rings]] which makes sense in English language, but in Serbian language tree rings aren't called tree rings and no one would ever got the idea to categorize them as such or to search for them in that category. Multilingual image descriptions are a common occurence. A lot of data in Commons is already very structured, so I believe it shouldn't be a problem to transfer it to another format. About the only problem that I see is the potential need for coexistence of raw wikitext and wikidata in the same namespace while the transition is occuring, but even that is solvable. _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Hi all, thanks for the feedback. Basically, I think we have 2 problems to solve in multiple languages: - categories - image/file description (= name + description) I think these both could be independent entries in WikiData database. I started a discussion on Commons Village pump - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wikidata_-_translati… and also created a place for possible proposal - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Kozuch/Wikidata all input is welcome Kozuch 2013/1/21 Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com> _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l