Hello,
Yes I might not use the right term here especially if you use it already in a different context. What I mean is that it would be good to have list of properties that can be used for a given thing. For instance if you want to describe a painting here the list of properties you can use. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings points to a page listing some properties that can be used for painting but not all of them.
Best, Valentine
2015-04-07 15:15 GMT+02:00 Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinzler@wikimedia.de:
I'm confused by your use of the term "template" here. In the context of MediaWiki, "template" refers to a bit of wikitext that can be parametrized and re-used, e.g. to make info-boxes.
If I understand correctly, what you mean is a kind of schema saying which properties can and should be present on items of which type. The Wikibase software has no concept of such schemas, on Wikidata such schemas are defined and enforced by convention only.
For the sake of clarity, I suggest to use the term "schema convention" for this, to avoid confusion with wikitext templates.
Am 07.04.2015 um 13:12 schrieb Valentine Charles:
Hello,
I wanted to get an overview of all the properties used boy the instance
Painting
(https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3305213) for further mapping with the
Europeana
Data Model. My initial thought that I would find a representative list at
http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Visual_arts/Item_structure
but in fact I have found much more properties used in association with
painting.
So I was wondering whether it would be a good idea to update the template mentioned above with the additional properties. I think it would be really interesting for GLAMs to have access to to representative templates listing all the properties used for a given
type of
objects. It would help them to understand Wikidata and to compare it
with their
own data. I think it would also help mappings activities. I on behalf of Europeana would be happy to help in this task and also facilitate the discussions with GLAMs around Wikidata.
What do you think?
Best wishes, Valentine
2015-04-04 23:45 GMT+02:00 Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@wikimedia.org mailto:smalyshev@wikimedia.org>:
Hi! > For things that actually *are* free text, and not terribly long, a
monolongual
> (or, in the future, multilingual) text property could be used.
"quote" already
> exists, "abstract" could be added, pending community discussion.
Length
> limitations can be adjusted if need be. Maybe if the need of bigger texts arises we can have separate field type? Right now the storage model is not very good for storing texts
of
non-negligible sizes, especially multilingual ones (x800 languages). OTOH, we have a type that allows us to use multimedia by integrating with Commons. So maybe the same idea with using some other wiki - quotes? sources? for bigger text snippets would work too? Just brainstorming here :) > What I was warning against is continuing the misuse of text fields
for
> semi-structured or even fully structured data that I have often
seen in GLAM
> meta-data. That kind of thing should not be copied to Wikidata. Right. I think it may be useful here to understand which kinds of
text
we're talking about which can't be structured but are big enough to cause concern. I.e. if it's quotes - we already have wikiquote,
right? Etc.
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