Am 03.11.2014 17:31, schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Jean-Baptiste Pressac Jean-Baptiste.Pressac@univ-brest.fr wrote:
Hello, Claims with surname properties are sometimes impossible. For instance, I tried to add the surname of René Grivart, but as I typed "Grivart" in the property value, the "save" link stays unclickable. Should we systematically create an item associated with the surname ?
That's how the community set it up, yes. The property has type item. This means it can only link to existing items.
I think the idea is to use this property only if the surename itself is of interested, and thus has a data item. The same is true for the corresponding "given name" property. In many instances, this would not be the case.
Having a separate field for the surname in general doesn't seem to useful to me, and could even be misleading. The concept of a "surname" as such is a western concept, and doesn't translate well to other culures. In fact, there isn't much we can assume about names at all, see http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-nam...
Generally, there's just "the name", which would be given as the item's label (or an alias). IF that isn't sufficient, perhaps P1448 ("official name") could be used: that's a (monolingual) text property.