The more I think about this issue, the more I think we need a separate animal altogether that sits between Wikidata and Wikipedia (or alongside it somehow) and that is a quick-ref "simple mobile version" that acts as a go-between to image data on Commons (or any other WM project). Right now Wikipedia is still the main gateway for all related projects even though you can link those WM projects as extra "sitelinks" on the Wikidata item. We have seen with the problems regarding the label for the mobile interface that the current label falls short of what it needs to do, and the Wikipedia first sentence or paragraph is often not a viable option (too "chatty")
I am very satisified with all of the UI changes that Wikidata has implemented so far, but I don't think we should make Wikidata the definitive UI for mobile traffic, or for external websites. As more and more websites (such as GLAM's) link out to Wikipedia, we should offer them a way to tap into the wealth of info on Wikidata, especially since Wikidata is all about long-tail subjects at a higher granularity of precision, which is the same segment of information dissemination where most GLAMs reside.
It could be a "Reasonator on steroids"
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
Hi Valentine,
The long, chatty, free-text descriptive element of Wikidata is really Wikipedia ;-)
There is a small free-text field in Wikidata for each item (the description, one per language) but it's intended for a short identifying/disambiguating note: "1887 self-portrait by XYZ"; "Danish artist and historian, 1912-1974", etc.
Dimensions are, I believe, being worked on.
Andrew.
On 1 April 2015 at 08:20, Valentine Charles valentinec89@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
Thank you all for your answers. I will have a look to the different
projects
you have mentioned in your emails. In the meantime I have spent a bit more time exploring Wikidata for paintings as one of our project currently focuses on Art and comparing it with the Europeana Data Model in terms of properties. I have noticed the absence of some properties and I would be curious whether it is just an overlook or whether there is a real intention behind the omission:
-Cultural Heritage data have most of the time a description property
where
you will find lot of relevant free text information. The structured
property
but inside you will find mostly free- text. I couldn't find a similar property in Wikidata but there is something similar in Dbpedia. Is it something you are planning to introduce or have you made the decision to exclude any free-text infromation from Wikidata for now.
-While I was looking for painting in Wikidata I also noticed the absence
of
information related to the size/dimension of the Artwork. The
information is
most of the time present in Cultural Heritage data. Is it something
Wikidata
is interested in or has it been omitted intentionally?
-Then the last question is about values in different languages for a
given
property. How do you indicate the language in Wikidata? Are you using a xml:lang attribute or something similar?
Thank you very much for your help
Best,
Valentine
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