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[Wikidata-l] Reusing Languages Translation (was: Data values)
by Innovimax SARL 17 Jan '13

17 Jan '13

For convertion between units, why not using the already built-in system of "Languages Translation" ? Hence, if people gives the value in Meter someone else could give it in Foot with the right precision and there will just be a link of "Translation" between those two Same apply for Units being given in SI ("kg⋅m2⋅s−3⋅A−2") and a Translation to "Ohm" My two cents Mohamed -- Innovimax SARL Consulting, Training & XML Development 9, impasse des Orteaux 75020 Paris Tel : +33 9 52 475787 Fax : +33 1 4356 1746 http://www.innovimax.fr RCS Paris 488.018.631 SARL au capital de 10.000 €

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[Wikidata-l] IPA and SAMPA
by Innovimax SARL 17 Jan '13

17 Jan '13

Dear all, Long time ago this bug[1] was opened to be able to permit IPA or SAMPA parsing and allow on the fly generation of sound file for a word It might be something interesting to put in the scope of Wikidata (since we have for each thing the way we name it in many languages, we might also be interested in the way to pronunce it in those languages) Best regards, Mohamed [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=224 -- Innovimax SARL Consulting, Training & XML Development 9, impasse des Orteaux 75020 Paris Tel : +33 9 52 475787 Fax : +33 1 4356 1746 http://www.innovimax.fr RCS Paris 488.018.631 SARL au capital de 10.000 €

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[Wikidata-l] first steps of Wikidata in the Hungarian Wikipedia
by Lydia Pintscher 15 Jan '13

15 Jan '13

Heya folks :) Today is the day. We've deployed Wikidata on the Hungarian Wikipedia \o/ I wrote a blog post with all the details at http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/01/14/first-steps-of-wikidata-in-the-hungaria… Thank you to everyone who has helped make this happen and especially the Hungarian Wikipedia community for agreeing to be the first. Cheers Lydia PS: The first important edit was already made as well: https://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Triatlon&diff=12906358&oldid=126… -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikitech-l] Interactions between the visual editor and Wikidata
by Marco Fleckinger 12 Jan '13

12 Jan '13

[include wikidata-l] On 01/11/13 23:27, Chris Steipp wrote: > Since we have CORS, javascript on the wikipedia page could make the > update directly in wikidata. I'd let the wikidata / ve people decide > if that's desirable, but it's possible. > Maybe yes, but wikidata allows different opinions. How do you decide, if the chunk of text replaced in VE should replace the data or if it should be just adding it by another chunk of data. Just a few examples: 1. Replacement: a) data gets clearer We did not knew the exact number of killed/injured people of a big accident/catastrophes relevant for all Wikipedias (also the German one ;-) ) recently after it happend. Fucushima would be an example or a big Earth quake like in Haiti. With the time you will get an exact number, because it needed some time to figure this out and the number changes as some more people die afterwards initially caused by the accident. Articles are created very soon after anything like that. In the beginning they use the data populated also by the media. With the time this will get clearer and the data will turn more precise. So also those values need to be changed. b) Wrong entered data: Sometimes it happens, however, that somebody enter wrong data. This can happen intentionally and just by accident. If you change this data in the VE, you definitely have to replace this on Wikidata. 2. Additional Information: There is an election in a country. The former president was not reelected. If this is changed on Wikidata, the information should not be replaced on Wikidata, it should be added with the qualifier "since:date" and the previous value should be altered by "until:date" In the end all edits in by authors in the current editor and in the visual one will are just tracked as changes, but how do you decide weather to replace the information or add it? Marco > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Marco Fleckinger > <marco.fleckinger(a)wikipedia.at> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would assume that there will be something like a shortcut or a button like >> "integrate Wikidata-property here", where you could inline search for this. >> >> Internally i could immagine a list where all items are tracked and a<span >> class="wikidata" id="wikidata_key"> where the id of this html-tag is the key >> in the internal list. >> >> Marco >> >> >> On 01/11/13 21:32, Strainu wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Starting from a very different problem, I found myself asking a very >>> strange question: How will the Visual Editor interact with Wikidata? >>> >>> Namely, let's say that somebody is editing the article about Romania >>> in the visual editor. The article contains an infobox with all the >>> data brought from Wikidata. The user will edit one of those fields >>> (say, the president's name). Will that change automatically be >>> reflected back to Wikidata? If not, will it be even possible to edit >>> those fields? If the change is pushed to Wikidata, how are conflicts >>> handled (2 users editing the president's name on different wikis >>> during a very crowded period when changes take a while to replicate >>> and one of them makes a mistake)? >>> >>> I seem to remember that wikidata edit-in-place is planned for phase >>> II, but I always assumed this would happen using some kind of popup >>> window, which kindof beats the purpose of a visual editor. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Strainu >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>> Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >

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[Wikidata-l] Is the inclusion syntax powerful enough?
by Denny Vrandečić 11 Jan '13

11 Jan '13

Hi all, We did yet another version of the inclusion syntax (admittedly, the last one is a few months old). We decided to very much simplify the syntax and also the ability of the inclusion syntax, and depend on anything more complex than what will be possible with that syntax on Lua. I am expecting that a lot of people will not like this idea. Therefore I will start two threads: first this one, where we discuss if the inclusion syntax is actually sufficient or if it lacks absolutely essential features that should not depend on Lua. <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Inclusion_syntax_v0.3> And a second thread where we discuss the details and merits of the proposal as it is, and if there are issues with it as it is. Cheers, Denny P.S.: yes, I learned that we should not have too many topics per thread starter. Let's see if this gets any feedback at all :) -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] weekly summary #40
by Lydia Pintscher 11 Jan '13

11 Jan '13

Heya folks :) Here's this weeks summary of what happened around Wikidata for you. The wiki version is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2013_01_11 = Development = * Bene* developed a new tool to show existing or missing items for a given Wikipedia category http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#new_tool_for_Wikidata * Selenium test-groups for (non)experimental features (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43828) * Notification for IP edits that IP will be logged (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42954) * Verified fix & added Selenium tests for broken error-reporting on label/description uniqueness constraint (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43301) * Label-edit-button links to Special:SetLabel when JavaScript disabled (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43814) * Updated PHP, MySQL, Ruby, Selenium, etc.. on internal test server and enabled APC + memcached * Work on AbuseFilter to make it work with Wikidata content (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42064) * Implemented length constraint for labels, descriptions and aliases (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/43434/ - configurable with a default of 2500 UTF8 characters) * Implementing a new mechanism for dispatching change notifications to client wikis * Worked more on how Wikidata changes are handled in the client watchlist (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43124) * Some work went into using Solr for the search. Still very simple * Prepared improvements to our puppet files on labs * Worked on statements UI (snaktypes/references) * Fixed bugs in UI event handling of widgets * Put EntityId parsing code into a dedicated class * Finished EntityDiff cleanup See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Current_sprint for what we’re working on next. You can follow our commits at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/(status:open+project:mediawiki/extension… and view the subset awaiting review at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions… You can see all open bugs related to Wikidata at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?emailcc1=1&list_id=151540&resolu… = Discussions/Press = * Reworked inclusion syntax completely http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2013-January/001582.html http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2013-January/001583.html * Updates to time and space model http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2013-January/001552.html * Is there a need for bureaucrats? http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Bureaucrats#Do_we_have_a_need_fo… * Planned improvement to the search field http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Let.27s_improve_the_sear… = Other Noteworthy Stuff = * Deployment on the Hungarian Wikipedia is still planned for Monday (Jan 14th) * Jens writes a bit about Wikidata’s mascots: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Jens_Ohlig#The_many_mascots_of_Wikidata = Open Tasks for You = * Give feedback on inclusion syntax draft version 3, the updated time and space model and the plans for improving the search field * Hack on one of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=need-volunteer%2C%20&ke… Anything to add? Please share! :) Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 14, Issue 9
by Carol.Bream＠ec.europa.eu 11 Jan '13

11 Jan '13

Maybe you could incorporate a link to the International codes for languages and expand the language code to the full name? Carol ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carol Bream Team Co-ordinator Library Applications, Thesaurus and Réseaubib European Commission Central Library ec.europa.eu/libraries ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The personal data contained in this document are dealt with in compliance with Regulation (EC) No 45/2001 ofthe European Parliament and of the Council of 18 December 2000 on the protection of individuals with regard to the processing of personal data by the Community institutions and bodies and on the free movement of such data. For more information, see http://europa.eu/geninfo/legal_notices_en.htm#personaldata -----Original Message----- From: wikidata-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikidata-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of wikidata-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:00 PM To: wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 14, Issue 9 Send Wikidata-l mailing list submissions to wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikidata-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikidata-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wikidata-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Order of language links (Jane Darnell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:02:58 +0100 From: Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com> To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." <wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Order of language links Message-ID: <CAFVcA-FbSSTuP_AAHfjv4d5g9tjrD5uS_rsyUKvrWitQ7YjhhQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think the order of languages is only important for articles with lots of interwiki links, but for the vast majority of articles there will be less than 5 or so and it doesn't matter. I often click on article interwikis for languages I don't know and can't read (like Japanese). I do this for several reasons, the most prevalent being that I want to see 1) How many links to that page are there in that language? 2) How many items (and which items are these) that are in the articles category in that language? I tend to only do this for the larger Wikipedia projects, where I do this regularly as a trick to track down articles in foreign languages that are good candidates to translate into English (the fathers/sons/siblings of painters). Jane 2013/1/8 Platonides <platonides(a)gmail.com> > On 08/01/13 22:31, LD 100 wrote: > > I would preferred if this could also be changed by each users > > individually in the settings (maybe the settings could be set > > globally) > > Although preferences are evil, I see the point for customizing this. > Having ar: in the top if I have no idea of that language is useless, I > would prefer to sort first those languages I could understand, perhaps > with a separator from those I definetely don't know (others might want > to completely hide those). > > > On 08/01/13 22:41, Meng Lu wrote: > > It's an interesting point. I personally would prefer seeing the > > Wikipedia instance's own language and English stay at the top, followed > > by the rest in alphabetical order. A longer stretch might be > > providing alternative ordering methods for languages such as > > alphabetical order, descending sizes of that page in each Wikipedia > > instance. > > Article sizes are not a perfect estimator for article quality, but seems > decent enough. However, it should be able to be overriden by marks of > Featured-article / Good-article when some of the entries are tagged as > such. > Con: Any edit potentially means purgin the entries for all interwikis. > Although if the interwiki sort order is stored in wikidata, and we > perhaps aren't actively purgin the squid entries, that shouldn't be a > problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/attachments/20130109/dafc8e…> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l End of Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 14, Issue 9 *****************************************

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[Wikidata-l] Order of language links
by Bináris 11 Jan '13

11 Jan '13

Good evening/morning/etc. (choose as your continent requires) In Hungarian Wikipedia there is a rule: always the English interwiki is the first, and the others alphabetically follow it. We had and sometimes still have long, long debates, talks, discussions and quarrels about that, and this is the result. (I feel responsible for having forgotten to list this topic on hu:WP:LAME.) So, will Wikibase client know and follow this rule? -- Bináris

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[Wikidata-l] New inclusion syntax for Wikipedia
by Denny Vrandečić 10 Jan '13

10 Jan '13

Hi all, We did yet another version of the inclusion syntax (admittedly, the last one is a few months old). We decided to very much simplify the syntax and also the ability of the inclusion syntax, and depend on anything more complex than what will be possible with that syntax on Lua. I am expecting that a lot of people will not like this idea. Therefore I will start two threads: first this one, where we discuss the merits and details of the new proposal. <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Inclusion_syntax_v0.3> And a second thread where we discuss whether the new proposal is too restrictive and what needs to be absolutely added so that we will not be considered a total failure. Cheers, Denny P.S.: yes, I learned that we should not have too many topics per thread starter. Let's see if this gets any feedback at all :) -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] Update to time and space model
by Denny Vrandečić 08 Jan '13

08 Jan '13

The time and location parsers have been updated (but not all suggestions yet implemented, still working on them). More importantly, the data model for the values has been updated according to the discussion we had here. If there are no strong arguments against, this is what we are going to implement for now. Time: < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Representing_values#Ti… > Location: < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Representing_values#Ge… > Cheers, Denny -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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