Wikidata August 2012

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[Wikidata-l] thoughts about a plan for enabling interlanguage linking
by Amir E. Aharoni 12 Aug '12

12 Aug '12

Hi, I'm not sure that it was discussed already. If it was discussed, please point me there. I read the Technical proposal and the translatable pages on Meta and couldn't find it there. Is there any concrete plan to start the migration of the current interlanguage links to Wikidata storage? For example: * The interwiki bots' will definitely have to be modified for the Wikidata age. Did anybody start a conversation with the operators of these bots? * How will interwiki conflicts be handled? Judging by earlier discussions, I suppose that Wikidata will just let pages with conflicts work as they always did, but this is an important issue that should be answered in the FAQ.[1] * How will bots identify pages that use Wikidata? Maybe the answer to all of the above questions is: "The Wikidata developers intentionally want to leave these things to the editors community". If it is, then this is fine. It is even hinted in the Technical proposal. But it should be written more explicitly, so that the communities will actually start to work on that. Again, if somebody already started it, please point me there. Thank you! [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/FAQ -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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[Wikidata-l] demo system updated + new volunteer dev tasks
by Lydia Pintscher 09 Aug '12

09 Aug '12

Heya folks :) We updated the demo system again. It'd be great if you could give it some testing. Especially the client and repository working together nicely is something that needs testing now that we're getting closer to deployment. http://wikidata-test.wikimedia.de We've also gone through all our bugs today and marked more tasks that volunteers can help with. If you're working on one of these please leave a comment in the bug report so everyone knows what's going on. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=need-volunteer&keywords… Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Deployment of Wikidata
by Lydia Pintscher 06 Aug '12

06 Aug '12

Heya folks This hasn't made it to this list yet sorry. The Hungarian Wikipedia community has stepped up to be the first one to use Wikidata in production once we're ready to deploy the code. They rock :D We're keeping track of the deployment plans here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Deployment Cheers Lydia ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bináris <wikiposta(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment of Wikidata To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> 2012/7/14 Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> > > Just to keep everyone updated: We have discussed this here at > Wikimania together with a few of the admins of the Hungarian > Wikipedia. Things are looking good and the next step is to take this > to the Hungarian Wikipedia to figure out if the community is ok with > this and then go for it if approved. > > The poll is here: http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Kocsmafal_%28m%C5%B1szaki%29#Te… Result: after some explanations we have 26 supporters in addition to 3 initiators/starters, and no opposers. (22 of them in the first 24 hours.) As I wrote earlier, this is an enthusiastic community. So huwiki is looking forward to test Wikidata. :-) Let's do it! -- Bináris _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] Export of Wikidata in RDF
by Denny Vrandečić 06 Aug '12

06 Aug '12

Hello all, we finally have published our first draft of how Wikidata phase II will be published in RDF. Comments are very welcome, either on this mailing list or on the respective talk page. <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/RDF> The document is, due to the subject matter, quite technical. If you are looking for a less technical introduction, feel free to read <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer> instead. Cheers, Denny -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] Data about population
by Daniel Kinzler 05 Aug '12

05 Aug '12

On 05.08.2012 05:58, Romaine Wiki wrote: > A central project for (also) such data would be very welcome, so we can > easily update this information. (This data is connected to identifiers by > individual area.) > > I hope the project is aiming to make this easier too. Yes, this will be done in phase 2. Phase 1 (which we are currently finishing) is only about interwikis. Phase 2 will cover almost everything you can find in infoboxes today, including population data. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler, Softwarearchitekt Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Eisenacher Straße 2 | 10777 Berlin http://wikimedia.de | Tel. (030) 219 158 260 Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] Data copyright and licensing
by dr.cueppers.gmbh＠arcor.de 05 Aug '12

05 Aug '12

I don't see difficulties if is made sure, that two additional fields belong to every information in Wikidata: a license field and a citation field, with the regulation, that one of these must be filled, otherwise Wikidata does not accept this edit. Which of the both additional fields is filled, lies in the responsibility of the editor. In addition it must be provided, that it is impossible to take over any info without such - filled - additional field into any Wikipedia. dr.cueppers de:WP Dr. Cüppers GmbH Hübnerstraße 2 33104 Paderborn 05254 935700

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[Wikidata-l] Data copyright and licensing
by Jan Kučera 05 Aug '12

05 Aug '12

Hi there, did anyone think of possible copyright restrictions on the use of external data within wikidata? I am not sure common public sources of data are usable right away... seems like copyright works the same with data as with any other "work"... Sure, many organizations throw data into public domain, but it definitely is not an industry standard yet. Kozuch

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[Wikidata-l] Data about population
by Romaine Wiki 04 Aug '12

04 Aug '12

On http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki/ I saw mostly pages regarding interwiki's. Are there also examples about how the data for the population in certain area's is added/represented? A central project for (also) such data would be very welcome, so we can easily update this information. (This data is connected to identifiers by individual area.) I hope the project is aiming to make this easier too. Greetings - Romaine (nl-wiki, e.o.)

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[Wikidata-l] weekly summary #17
by Lydia Pintscher 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

Heya folks :) Here's the Wikidata summary of the week before 2012-08-03. Want this on-wiki? Here you go: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2012_08_03 Cheers Lydia = Development = * Refactored API tests * Worked on undo for items * Worked on Wikidata JS Library proposal * Improved communication with WMF (weekly reports to wikitech-l now about blocking issues and so on) * Published reworked storyboard for linking between Wikipedia articles http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Storyboard_for_linking_… * Attempted to make DOM on item pages nicer * Worked towards making the STTLanguage extension ready for deployment * Refactored Wikibase client code * Deployed new version of the test system * Code review * Bug fixes See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Current_sprint for what we’re working on next. You can follow our commits at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/(status:open+project:mediawiki/extension… and view the subset awaiting review at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions…. = Discussions/Press = * Licensing * Improving volunteer involvement = Events = see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Events If you’re in Berlin and want to go to Campus Party to see Daniel talk about Wikidata and me about getting involved in Free Software there are some tickets you can win: http://blog.wikimedia.de/2012/08/02/tickets-fur-die-campus-party-europe-zu-… = Other Noteworthy Stuff = * Worked on making it easier for volunteers to get involved and contacted many on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Volunteers (more to follow) * Started on-wiki newsletter so you can get Wikidata news delivered to your talk page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Wikidata * Reworked http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata = Open Tasks for You = * Help update the translations of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata * Give feedback on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Storyboard_for_linking_… and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/UI_Layout_Concept#Phase… Anything to add? Please share! :) [[Category:Wikidata]] -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] Wikidata links
by Gregor Hagedorn 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

On https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/URI_scheme#Proposal_for_Wiki… I am missing the arguments why Wikidata needs the multitude of URI forms. The list needs commenting and arguments why "URIs should be canonical within Wikimedia projects" is given up. ---- (Of lesser importance, I wonder why the internal opaque ID has to be prefixed by a letter (Q) - why not a simple number?) ---- At them moment I believe a choice should be made between: http://{site}.wikidata.org/wiki/{title} and http://wikidata.org/title/{site}:{title} but perhaps the argument why both are needed could be added. ---- On the issue of interlanguage/interwiki linking, I believe the semantics should not be opposite in Wikidata and Wikipedias, see my comment https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata/Notes/Wiki_links Gregor

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