Hi there,
can we have ONE place where there will be info about current progress and
WHEN will be particular phase really launched? I also would like to see
reasons why original deadlines were not met... I guess phase #1 was due to
about two months ago?
Can it be you already are coding phase #2 while #1 still is not launched?
What is the reasoning behind this?
I dont want to be pain in the ass but I think more people might be
interested in clearly watching the project progress without having to dig
for info themselves. One is getting confused and demotivated for future
volunteering seeing targets are not met without much reasoning (or at least
much publicly readable communication).
Thx.
Jan
Hey there. To those of you that are American, happy Thanksgiving! To those
of you that are not American, happy "Why can't I reach any of the the
Americans today, and what's with all this talk of stuffing? day!".
So a while back when Denny gave a talk in Boston about Wikidata, he
mentioned that he didn't want bots running until after the new API hit and
we had a chance to make sure that nothing was broken. I reposted that on
the project chat and we all agreed to stop the bots. That was on November
13.
Today I wake up to find that there is a bot running, and another
to-be-bot-op is asking if he can run his too. Does anyone know if the new
API has hit? Denny had no idea when it would. If it has, and nothing is on
fire, does anyone have any other objections to running bots again?
On a final note, I would ask that the bots stop running at Q99900 and
resume once we're at Q100001, as Denny did make a point to me in private
that day that I agree with, that it's great for the milestones in projects
(and Q100000 is a big one) to be reached by humans and not bots. Donno if
that's possible to program in though. Gosh, I remember creating things with
four digits after the Q. I'm feeling old. :D
Sven
Hey,
We have had a createclaim API module for a while now, and although we have
not deployed it on wikidata.org, some of you might have played around with
it on local installs. Yesterday changes where merged vastly improving how
claims are stored. The current code no longer supports the old format and
you might get errors when trying to load entities that have claims in the
old format attached. If this causes any problems, you can delete these
entities.
Cheers
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Hello Gregor,
Thank you for your clear and convincing summary of 3rd party data licensing.
Could you or someone else on- or off-list tell me if Wikimedia is planning some sort of comprehensive technical separation of 3rd party data to ensure attribution, clearance of rights for downstream reuse etc.?
My current project, www.linkedheritage.eu, is looking at this type of question right now so I'm happy to discuss.
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:06:00 +0100
From: Gregor Hagedorn <g.m.hagedorn(a)gmail.com>
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> Just to clarify, my concern is about externally made databases,
> regardless of whether these are imported directly into Wikidata, or
> have been incorporated into Wikipedia first and imported into Wikidata
> from there. For example, the population data in Wikipedia's list of
> ceremonial English counties
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ceremonial_counties_of_England),
> which also features in the infoboxes of the articles on each county,
> would I think be covered by database right under U.K law. Like other
> ONS material, it has been made available under the OGL, which does
> impose some obligations on re-users (somewhat similar to CC-BY).
This is in interesting case. However, while the database right gives you certain rights, it does not give you a copyright (i.e. the conent may be legally problematic, but it cannot be covered by CC BY-SA).
Thus, the use on Wikipedia is either exclusively licensed with an obligation to prevent re-use by third parties (which is not the case, WMF does not do this), or it is illegal, or acceptance of open re-use is an implicit waiver of database rights.
I believe you can not allow it on Wikipedia but then NOT allow further reuse.
However, to clarify:
1. It is much preferable to add such data to Wikidata and include their source in a structured way. Whether OGL or other licenses need to be explicitly supported by Wikidata in the future will have to be a separate discussion, on Wikidata.org.
2. My goal in participating in this discussion is to avoid the impression that re-use of Wikipedia content is not possible at all without looking at each invidivual data element and record.
3. Wikidata plans to support a hierarchy of multiple data for the same statement (multiple values from different sources for a single property in a single item). This makes it possible (although not
required) to mix Wikipedia-harvested information with poor sourcing with clean, well sourced data.
4. Not harvesting from Wikipedia implies to verify that almost all information from Wikipedia is in WIkidata, but cleanly sourced, before it si possible to migrate a class of infoboxes to Wikidata. I believe this is an impossible task, making some import of Wikipedia-harvested data necessary. Where better, sourced information exist, these would take precedence.
Gregor
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:12:45 +0100
From: Vito <vituzzu.wiki(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata demo repo is being spammed.
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Il 16/11/2012 07:24, Katie Filbert ha scritto:
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Snaevar <snaevar-wiki(a)gmx.com
> <mailto:snaevar-wiki@gmx.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I wanted to let you guys know that there is spam being added to
> items (descriptions and labels) on the demo repo.
>
>
> Thanks for reporting this.
>
> I've deleted the spam.
>
> Cheers,
> Katie
>
Unfortunately I already saw spambots doing sul on wikidata, so a spam attacks are at the hand. Please report any spam to stewards in order to let them check&lock everything.
Vito
Dear all,
We have extended the deadline for submissions to the Special Issue on
Multilingual Linked Open Data (MLOD) 2012 to *December 7th*.
Continuing the great success of the MLODE 2012
workshop<http://sabre2012.infai.org/mlode>,
we welcome novel submission to this special issue of the Semantic Web
Journal. We also produced a new version of the linguistic linked open data
cloud image as a result of the workshop:
http://linguistics.okfn.org/resources/llod
The call is here (and also attached as an HTML file)
http://www.semantic-web-journal.net/blog/call-multilingual-linked-open-data-
mlod-2012-data-post-proceedings
Kind regards,
John McCrae (on behalf of all MLOD guest editors: Steven Moran, Martin
Brümmer, Sebastian Hellmann)
Hi all wikidatians!
I don't know if the matter has been already took in consideration but I
think we should state a framework for policies, help and community pages.
There's not so much to do, we already have a working model which is Commons.
For example I've just seen
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Descrizione which is quite fine with
me but it should be a translation of a common policy
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Description placed under
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Descrizione/it
currently our {{autotranslate}} is transcluded only into another
template, I hope the list will increase asap ;)
Vito
Heya folks,
We unfortunately had to switch off language switching for anonymous
users because of caching issues and people seeing random languages on
wikidata.org because of it. It still works for logged-in users. We're
working on getting it back for anonymous users too. You can follow
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42064 for the progress.
Sorry for that.
Cheers
Lydia
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