Hi,
is there information about referrals within enwiki? We are investigating the quality of the "See also" links and are looking for estimates how often the see also links were used. If so can we access the information from eqiad.wmflabs https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:I-00000afa.eqiad.wmflabs ?
Best Physikerwelt
This is a popular topic in this period. * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Improving_link_coverage * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Hovercards * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Increasing_article_coverage
Nemo
Hi Physikerwelt,
I'm not sure how we'd collect that data. You'd need to gather it from whatever server the user's browser made a request to after clicking one of those links. That's how referrers work. Also, clicks to non-https links from https Wikipedia will not contain referrers. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_referrer_policy for a proposal to update our policy.
-Aaron
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Physikerwelt wiki@physikerwelt.de wrote:
Hi,
is there information about referrals within enwiki? We are investigating the quality of the "See also" links and are looking for estimates how often the see also links were used. If so can we access the information from eqiad.wmflabs https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:I-00000afa.eqiad.wmflabs ?
Best Physikerwelt
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Hi Aaron,
I may be misreading the request but I think what's being looked at here is Wikipedia -> Wikipedia links - so the referring server + the referred server are both ours.
Given that, I *think* this data Dario put out earlier in the year would be what's needed - http://dx.doi.org/10.6084/m9.figshare.1305770 - but with the caveat that it's only enwiki and only for two months. It won't identify which link on a page was used (if it appears multiple times), but most "see also" links are unique within the page and so this shouldn't pose a problem.
Andrew.
On 29 April 2015 at 14:47, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfaker@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Physikerwelt,
I'm not sure how we'd collect that data. You'd need to gather it from whatever server the user's browser made a request to after clicking one of those links. That's how referrers work. Also, clicks to non-https links from https Wikipedia will not contain referrers. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_referrer_policy for a proposal to update our policy.
-Aaron
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Physikerwelt wiki@physikerwelt.de wrote:
Hi,
is there information about referrals within enwiki? We are investigating the quality of the "See also" links and are looking for estimates how often the see also links were used. If so can we access the information from eqiad.wmflabs?
Best Physikerwelt
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Indeed Andrew. Upon re-reading, I think you're right. Thanks for pointing to that dataset.
Also, primary credit for that dataset should go to Ellery Wulczyn. :) Credit where it is due.
Wulczyn, Ellery; Taraborelli, Dario (2015): Wikipedia Clickstream. figshare. http://dx.doi.org/10.6084/m9.figshare.1305770
-Aaron
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
Hi Aaron,
I may be misreading the request but I think what's being looked at here is Wikipedia -> Wikipedia links - so the referring server + the referred server are both ours.
Given that, I *think* this data Dario put out earlier in the year would be what's needed - http://dx.doi.org/10.6084/m9.figshare.1305770
- but with the caveat that it's only enwiki and only for two months.
It won't identify which link on a page was used (if it appears multiple times), but most "see also" links are unique within the page and so this shouldn't pose a problem.
Andrew.
On 29 April 2015 at 14:47, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfaker@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Physikerwelt,
I'm not sure how we'd collect that data. You'd need to gather it from whatever server the user's browser made a request to after clicking one
of
those links. That's how referrers work. Also, clicks to non-https links from https Wikipedia will not contain referrers. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_referrer_policy for a proposal to update our policy.
-Aaron
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Physikerwelt wiki@physikerwelt.de
wrote:
Hi,
is there information about referrals within enwiki? We are investigating the quality of the "See also" links and are looking for estimates how often the see also links were used. If so can we access the information from eqiad.wmflabs?
Best Physikerwelt
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Hi Aaron,
You're quite right - should have read Dario's old email in a bit more detail! Apologies, Ellery...
I'm very curious to see the results of the see-also study, and it strikes me that we could also use this to get some idea of reading persistence - how much more likely is it that a (unique) link in the first half of the page is followed versus one in the second half.
Andrew.
On 29 April 2015 at 15:54, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfaker@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed Andrew. Upon re-reading, I think you're right. Thanks for pointing to that dataset.
Also, primary credit for that dataset should go to Ellery Wulczyn. :) Credit where it is due.
Wulczyn, Ellery; Taraborelli, Dario (2015): Wikipedia Clickstream. figshare. http://dx.doi.org/10.6084/m9.figshare.1305770
-Aaron
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
Hi Aaron,
I may be misreading the request but I think what's being looked at here is Wikipedia -> Wikipedia links - so the referring server + the referred server are both ours.
Given that, I *think* this data Dario put out earlier in the year would be what's needed - http://dx.doi.org/10.6084/m9.figshare.1305770
- but with the caveat that it's only enwiki and only for two months.
It won't identify which link on a page was used (if it appears multiple times), but most "see also" links are unique within the page and so this shouldn't pose a problem.
Andrew.
On 29 April 2015 at 14:47, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfaker@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Physikerwelt,
I'm not sure how we'd collect that data. You'd need to gather it from whatever server the user's browser made a request to after clicking one of those links. That's how referrers work. Also, clicks to non-https links from https Wikipedia will not contain referrers. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_referrer_policy for a proposal to update our policy.
-Aaron
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Physikerwelt wiki@physikerwelt.de wrote:
Hi,
is there information about referrals within enwiki? We are investigating the quality of the "See also" links and are looking for estimates how often the see also links were used. If so can we access the information from eqiad.wmflabs?
Best Physikerwelt
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