Just now I asked the following question on the Technical Talk livestream at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-CRsiwYM9w
10:19 AM: Page 20 of Robert West's 2016 Stanford thesis, "Human Navigation of Information Networks" says, "We have access to Wikimedia’s full server logs, containing all HTTP requests to Wikimedia projects." 10:19 AM: The text is at http://infolab.stanford.edu/~west1/pubs/West_Dissertation-2016.pdf 10:19 AM: Page 19 indicates that this information includes the "IP address, proxy information, and user agent." 10:20 AM: This is confirmed by West at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ0NPhT-fsE&t=25m40s 10:20 AM: Does the Foundation still share that identifying information with research affiliates? If so, how many are them world-wide; if not, when did sharing this information stop? 10:25 AM: MediaWiki @James Salsman I see your question, but donfly. Can we reach out to you after the talk? 10:25 AM: MediaWiki: sorry hit enter too soon! 10:26 AM: MediaWiki: I don't have the full-context of the thesis to ask kate to answer the question on the fly. Can we reach out to you after? 10:26 AM: James Salsman: With whom am I corresponding? 10:27 AM: James Salsman: Sarah? 10:28 AM: MediaWiki: Yes! That's me! 10:28 AM: James Salsman: Would it be easier to ask, "how many research affiliates does the Foundation share server logs with IP addresses?" 10:29 AM: MediaWiki: Yes, I can ask that. 10:30 AM: James Salsman: Thank you.
At 10:34, the messages with the the URLs I posted were removed from the chat log.
At 10:36, the chat stream was removed from the video, which was replaced with the text, "Chat is disabled for this live stream," and now is completely missing.
I am still interested in getting an answer to this question, but disturbed by the removal of links to sources. Could I please have an explanation?
Sincerely, Jim
I note now that the full chat transcript has been restored; thank you.
I am still interested in the answer to the question.
Sincerely, Jim
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:46 AM James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
Just now I asked the following question on the Technical Talk livestream at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-CRsiwYM9w
10:19 AM: Page 20 of Robert West's 2016 Stanford thesis, "Human Navigation of Information Networks" says, "We have access to Wikimedia’s full server logs, containing all HTTP requests to Wikimedia projects." 10:19 AM: The text is at http://infolab.stanford.edu/~west1/pubs/West_Dissertation-2016.pdf 10:19 AM: Page 19 indicates that this information includes the "IP address, proxy information, and user agent." 10:20 AM: This is confirmed by West at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ0NPhT-fsE&t=25m40s 10:20 AM: Does the Foundation still share that identifying information with research affiliates? If so, how many are them world-wide; if not, when did sharing this information stop? 10:25 AM: MediaWiki @James Salsman I see your question, but donfly. Can we reach out to you after the talk? 10:25 AM: MediaWiki: sorry hit enter too soon! 10:26 AM: MediaWiki: I don't have the full-context of the thesis to ask kate to answer the question on the fly. Can we reach out to you after? 10:26 AM: James Salsman: With whom am I corresponding? 10:27 AM: James Salsman: Sarah? 10:28 AM: MediaWiki: Yes! That's me! 10:28 AM: James Salsman: Would it be easier to ask, "how many research affiliates does the Foundation share server logs with IP addresses?" 10:29 AM: MediaWiki: Yes, I can ask that. 10:30 AM: James Salsman: Thank you.
At 10:34, the messages with the the URLs I posted were removed from the chat log.
At 10:36, the chat stream was removed from the video, which was replaced with the text, "Chat is disabled for this live stream," and now is completely missing.
I am still interested in getting an answer to this question, but disturbed by the removal of links to sources. Could I please have an explanation?
Sincerely, Jim
Hello James, See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Formal_collaborations for more information.
Best, Isaac
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:51 PM James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
I note now that the full chat transcript has been restored; thank you.
I am still interested in the answer to the question.
Sincerely, Jim
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:46 AM James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
Just now I asked the following question on the Technical Talk livestream at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-CRsiwYM9w
10:19 AM: Page 20 of Robert West's 2016 Stanford thesis, "Human Navigation of Information Networks" says, "We have access to Wikimedia’s full server logs, containing all HTTP requests to Wikimedia projects." 10:19 AM: The text is at http://infolab.stanford.edu/~west1/pubs/West_Dissertation-2016.pdf 10:19 AM: Page 19 indicates that this information includes the "IP address, proxy information, and user agent." 10:20 AM: This is confirmed by West at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ0NPhT-fsE&t=25m40s 10:20 AM: Does the Foundation still share that identifying information with research affiliates? If so, how many are them world-wide; if not, when did sharing this information stop? 10:25 AM: MediaWiki @James Salsman I see your question, but donfly. Can we reach out to you after the talk? 10:25 AM: MediaWiki: sorry hit enter too soon! 10:26 AM: MediaWiki: I don't have the full-context of the thesis to ask kate to answer the question on the fly. Can we reach out to you after? 10:26 AM: James Salsman: With whom am I corresponding? 10:27 AM: James Salsman: Sarah? 10:28 AM: MediaWiki: Yes! That's me! 10:28 AM: James Salsman: Would it be easier to ask, "how many research affiliates does the Foundation share server logs with IP addresses?" 10:29 AM: MediaWiki: Yes, I can ask that. 10:30 AM: James Salsman: Thank you.
At 10:34, the messages with the the URLs I posted were removed from the chat log.
At 10:36, the chat stream was removed from the video, which was replaced with the text, "Chat is disabled for this live stream," and now is completely missing.
I am still interested in getting an answer to this question, but disturbed by the removal of links to sources. Could I please have an explanation?
Sincerely, Jim
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