James: I made the edit stating the research should get approval, and I did
that by jumping into the game and just making the edit based on what I read
in discussion boards. I did not consider it to be a new requirement as you
called it. On the talk page I proposed a kind of approval - actually it is
what Dario is calling "flagging", meaning that someone checks to see that
the researcher has submitted requested information but does not check to
see whether the information meets any criteria.
I think flagging is a good idea to make sure that researchers meet minimum
disclosure requirements, and I would be happy to be one of the reviewers of
research in this way. I trust that it would be noncontroversial just to ask
researchers to complete a form and then check to see if it is completed;
surely any other review system would start with that step, right?
Jodi: Most researchers do not know about research submission for approval
on Wikipedia, but I think if we had a landing page with instructions then
the community would become aware of it and start directing researchers to
it. Researchers know that they are supposed to seek community approval
before doing work.
Is such a flagging system already in place? If not, shall we start one?
This is what I imagine is what we have consensus to do - is this how it is
supposed to work?
1. Researcher jumps on Wikipedia unannounced and starts recruiting for
2. Some Wikipedian tells the researcher to submit their project for
3. Researcher goes to landing page and completes a form for their
4. The proposal is posted publicly
5. Any volunteer can check the proposal to see if all fields are
6. Volunteers tag the form as being completed or incomplete - no quality
7. Completed forms eventually get reviewed by RCom according to criteria
which are currently undefined
8. Approved projects get a template to stick on their project page.
9. Researchers must show their research page to all research recruitment
candidates, who would be able to see the completed form, the flagging by a
volunteer, and the approval by RCom. The approval template would also link
to more information about research on Wikipedia.
10. Research subjects would only be able to agree to participate in
research by following instructions at the bottom of the research
description form, so they would see default notices like "unflagged" or
"unreviewed" if no one has checked it.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:15 AM, James Salsman <jsalsman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dario Taraborelli <dtaraborelli(a)wikimedia.org>
... due to the lack of a formal policy, the RCom has never been
in a position to grant any kind of "definitive approval" to recruit
I appreciate that clarification, but it strictly contradicts this edit from
11 days ago:
about which Dario said, "I appreciate the documentation on the
review procedure" at
I think there are some very serious ethical issues here. Requiring
Research Committee approval to contact editors or users was
explicitly rejected by the Research Committee:
As far as I can tell, the Research Committee has not discussed the
I wonder what the community thinks of this new requirement.
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