Dear all,
I have just finished my second "teaching with Wikipedia" article. I'd like to publish it in an established academic journal that, if possible, supports open content. Unfortunately, I do not have much experience with this sector of the journals (teaching/education/pedagogy journals), nor with journal impact magic, and thus I'd very much appreciate your suggestions where to publish. I have, of course, quickly Google'd few open content teaching journals, but I admit, selfishly, that entering the job market, I'd prefer my CV to include, if possible, higher-end journals...
(In my sociology field, the most respected educational journal, "Teaching Sociology", is, sadly, not open content...).
If anybody is interested in reading and commenting on my article in question (tentatively titled "Wikis and Wikipedia as a Teaching Tool: Five Years Later"), I have made it available on Google Docs (just let me know and I'll send you a link, and enable commenting for your account).
PS. My old 2007 article (titled, unsurprisingly, "Wikis and Wikipedia as a Teaching Tool") was published here: http://www.itdl.org/Journal/Jan_07/article02.htm I am still content with it for what it was in 2007, but by 2011, it is, I'll be the first to admit it, rather obsolete.
Hi Piotr,
Your dilemma is one I sympathize with and struggle with myself. The route I am thinking of following myself is the "hybrid journal" format: a traditional paid journal that will enable certain articles open access for a fee.
I looked up Teaching Sociology, and found that they are in the Sage journals family. Sage recently launched a hybrid policy, called "Sage Choice": http://www.sagepub.com/sagechoice.sp. This describes what I'm talking about: if the author pays the bounty to release an article from journal jail, the publisher will gladly go open access--for that article only. Sage's rate is $3,000. Other journal prices I've seen are typically in the $2,000 to $3,000 range per article. This is the fair market price of publishing in a high-quality open access journal (e.g. http://www.plos.org/journals/pubfees.php).
Teaching Sociology is not in the Sage Choice program, but I dare say that if you could raise $3,000 in publishing fees, you could negotiate a special deal with Sage to release an article open access. Of course, I'm only using Teaching Sociology and Sage as examples, since that is the journal you mentioned; I would think that many other publishers would be flexible to negotiate a special arrangement, as long as you pay the bounty. Money talks, after all.
~ Chitu
Piotr Konieczny a écrit :
Dear all,
I have just finished my second "teaching with Wikipedia" article. I'd like to publish it in an established academic journal that, if possible, supports open content. Unfortunately, I do not have much experience with this sector of the journals (teaching/education/pedagogy journals), nor with journal impact magic, and thus I'd very much appreciate your suggestions where to publish. I have, of course, quickly Google'd few open content teaching journals, but I admit, selfishly, that entering the job market, I'd prefer my CV to include, if possible, higher-end journals...
(In my sociology field, the most respected educational journal, "Teaching Sociology", is, sadly, not open content...).
If anybody is interested in reading and commenting on my article in question (tentatively titled "Wikis and Wikipedia as a Teaching Tool: Five Years Later"), I have made it available on Google Docs (just let me know and I'll send you a link, and enable commenting for your account).
PS. My old 2007 article (titled, unsurprisingly, "Wikis and Wikipedia as a Teaching Tool") was published here: http://www.itdl.org/Journal/Jan_07/article02.htm I am still content with it for what it was in 2007, but by 2011, it is, I'll be the first to admit it, rather obsolete.
I think the two follow, which are basically librarianship journals, but have a very wide scope, would consider this. Neither have a publication fee.
"First Monday" http://firstmonday.org/about/submissions#onlineSubmissions
"DLib", http://dlib.org/dlib/author-guidelines.html
I unfortunately do not know the editors of either, but they're the two of highest reputation in my field. I am however not in the least sure that academic sociologists will consider either as very prestigious.
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Chitu Okoli Chitu.Okoli@concordia.ca wrote:
Hi Piotr,
Your dilemma is one I sympathize with and struggle with myself. The route I am thinking of following myself is the "hybrid journal" format: a traditional paid journal that will enable certain articles open access for a fee.
I looked up Teaching Sociology, and found that they are in the Sage journals family. Sage recently launched a hybrid policy, called "Sage Choice": http://www.sagepub.com/sagechoice.sp. This describes what I'm talking about: if the author pays the bounty to release an article from journal jail, the publisher will gladly go open access--for that article only. Sage's rate is $3,000. Other journal prices I've seen are typically in the $2,000 to $3,000 range per article. This is the fair market price of publishing in a high-quality open access journal (e.g. http://www.plos.org/journals/pubfees.php).
Teaching Sociology is not in the Sage Choice program, but I dare say that if you could raise $3,000 in publishing fees, you could negotiate a special deal with Sage to release an article open access. Of course, I'm only using Teaching Sociology and Sage as examples, since that is the journal you mentioned; I would think that many other publishers would be flexible to negotiate a special arrangement, as long as you pay the bounty. Money talks, after all.
~ Chitu
Piotr Konieczny a écrit :
Dear all,
I have just finished my second "teaching with Wikipedia" article. I'd like to publish it in an established academic journal that, if possible, supports open content. Unfortunately, I do not have much experience with this sector of the journals (teaching/education/pedagogy journals), nor with journal impact magic, and thus I'd very much appreciate your suggestions where to publish. I have, of course, quickly Google'd few open content teaching journals, but I admit, selfishly, that entering the job market, I'd prefer my CV to include, if possible, higher-end journals...
(In my sociology field, the most respected educational journal, "Teaching Sociology", is, sadly, not open content...).
If anybody is interested in reading and commenting on my article in question (tentatively titled "Wikis and Wikipedia as a Teaching Tool: Five Years Later"), I have made it available on Google Docs (just let me know and I'll send you a link, and enable commenting for your account).
PS. My old 2007 article (titled, unsurprisingly, "Wikis and Wikipedia as a Teaching Tool") was published here: http://www.itdl.org/Journal/Jan_07/article02.htm I am still content with it for what it was in 2007, but by 2011, it is, I'll be the first to admit it, rather obsolete.
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Have you thought about publishing it at WikiSym? It's not a journal, but it's an excellent conference.
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I think the two follow, which are basically librarianship journals, but have a very wide scope, would consider this. Neither have a publication fee.
"First Monday" http://firstmonday.org/about/submissions#onlineSubmissions
"DLib", http://dlib.org/dlib/author-guidelines.html
I unfortunately do not know the editors of either, but they're the two of highest reputation in my field. I am however not in the least sure that academic sociologists will consider either as very prestigious.
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Chitu Okoli Chitu.Okoli@concordia.ca wrote:
Hi Piotr,
Your dilemma is one I sympathize with and struggle with myself. The route I am thinking of following myself is the "hybrid journal" format: a traditional paid journal that will enable certain articles open access for a fee.
I looked up Teaching Sociology, and found that they are in the Sage journals family. Sage recently launched a hybrid policy, called "Sage Choice": http://www.sagepub.com/sagechoice.sp. This describes what I'm talking about: if the author pays the bounty to release an article from journal jail, the publisher will gladly go open access--for that article only. Sage's rate is $3,000. Other journal prices I've seen are typically in the $2,000 to $3,000 range per article. This is the fair market price of publishing in a high-quality open access journal (e.g. http://www.plos.org/journals/pubfees.php).
Teaching Sociology is not in the Sage Choice program, but I dare say that if you could raise $3,000 in publishing fees, you could negotiate a special deal with Sage to release an article open access. Of course, I'm only using Teaching Sociology and Sage as examples, since that is the journal you mentioned; I would think that many other publishers would be flexible to negotiate a special arrangement, as long as you pay the bounty. Money talks, after all.
~ Chitu
Piotr Konieczny a écrit :
Dear all,
I have just finished my second "teaching with Wikipedia" article. I'd like to publish it in an established academic journal that, if possible, supports open content. Unfortunately, I do not have much experience with this sector of the journals (teaching/education/pedagogy journals), nor with journal impact magic, and thus I'd very much appreciate your suggestions where to publish. I have, of course, quickly Google'd few open content teaching journals, but I admit, selfishly, that entering the job market, I'd prefer my CV to include, if possible, higher-end journals...
(In my sociology field, the most respected educational journal, "Teaching Sociology", is, sadly, not open content...).
If anybody is interested in reading and commenting on my article in question (tentatively titled "Wikis and Wikipedia as a Teaching Tool: Five Years Later"), I have made it available on Google Docs (just let me know and I'll send you a link, and enable commenting for your account).
PS. My old 2007 article (titled, unsurprisingly, "Wikis and Wikipedia as a Teaching Tool") was published here: http://www.itdl.org/Journal/Jan_07/article02.htm I am still content with it for what it was in 2007, but by 2011, it is, I'll be the first to admit it, rather obsolete.
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Desilets, Alain wrote:
Have you thought about publishing it at WikiSym? It's not a journal, but it's an excellent conference.
The paper is in fact based on a workshop I held at WikiSym a while ago: http://www.wikisym.org/ws2010/Teaching+with+Wikipedia+and+other+Wikimedia+Fo...
I would present it at 2011, if not for the fact that it is too far. Next time it is closer to my location, I'll likely to so.
Good stuff. Just thought I'd check ;-).
Alain
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Desilets, Alain wrote:
Have you thought about publishing it at WikiSym? It's not a journal, but it's an excellent conference.
The paper is in fact based on a workshop I held at WikiSym a while ago: http://www.wikisym.org/ws2010/Teaching+with+Wikipedia+and+other+Wikimedia+Fo...
I would present it at 2011, if not for the fact that it is too far. Next time it is closer to my location, I'll likely to so.
-- Piotr Konieczny
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On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Chitu Okoli Chitu.Okoli@concordia.ca wrote:
Hi Piotr,
I looked up Teaching Sociology, and found that they are in the Sage journals family. Sage recently launched a hybrid policy, called "Sage Choice": http://www.sagepub.com/sagechoice.sp. This describes what I'm talking about: if the author pays the bounty to release an article from journal jail, the publisher will gladly go open access--for that article only. Sage's rate is $3,000. Other journal prices I've seen are typically in the $2,000 to $3,000 range per article. This is the fair market price of publishing in a high-quality open access journal (e.g. http://www.plos.org/journals/pubfees.php).
I'd say avoid Sage if at all possible. They are one of the publishers involved in this craziness: http://blogs.library.duke.edu/scholcomm/2011/05/13/a-nightmare-scenario-for-...
Sage is one of the publishers (along with Cambridge and Oxford) suing a university over copyright infringement and asking for an injunction that would essentially obliterate fair use at that university.
-Sage (not the publisher!)
I just wanted to say that Sage is the most cooperative publisher when it comes to electronic distribution and ADA accommodation. I like them.
--Sam
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipedia@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Chitu Okoli Chitu.Okoli@concordia.ca wrote:
Hi Piotr,
I looked up Teaching Sociology, and found that they are in the Sage
journals
family. Sage recently launched a hybrid policy, called "Sage Choice": http://www.sagepub.com/sagechoice.sp. This describes what I'm talking
about:
if the author pays the bounty to release an article from journal jail,
the
publisher will gladly go open access--for that article only. Sage's rate
is
$3,000. Other journal prices I've seen are typically in the $2,000 to
$3,000
range per article. This is the fair market price of publishing in a high-quality open access journal (e.g. http://www.plos.org/journals/pubfees.php).
I'd say avoid Sage if at all possible. They are one of the publishers involved in this craziness:
http://blogs.library.duke.edu/scholcomm/2011/05/13/a-nightmare-scenario-for-...
Sage is one of the publishers (along with Cambridge and Oxford) suing a university over copyright infringement and asking for an injunction that would essentially obliterate fair use at that university.
-Sage (not the publisher!)
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