My interest is in the subset of superusers who spend thousands of hours
caring about readability, who tend to gravitate towards entire projects
like wikikids or simple <lang>. This is different from the value of
measuring readability of all articles across many languages. But it points
to an area where there are many people eager to get to work, except they
lack a way to add a more-readable version of an article without arguing
with everyone else who might have other use cases in mind (some of which
may call for a less readable but more technically complet article).
We need both (a way to have multiple levels of readability of a single
article) and (a way to measure readability of any particular [version of
an] article) to bridge the gap you're addressing :)
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:57 AM Martin Gerlach <mgerlach(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Hi Samuel,
thanks for your interest in this project.
Following up on your question, I want to share some additional background:
This work is part of our updated research roadmap to address knowledge gaps
[1], specifically, developing methods to measure different knowledge gaps
[2]. We have identified readability as one of the gaps in the taxonomy of
knowledge gaps [3]. However, we currently do not have the tools to
systematically measure readability of Wikipedia articles across languages.
Therefore, we would like to develop and validate a multilingual approach to
measuring readability. Furthermore, the community wishlist from the
previous year contained a proposal for a tool to surface readability scores
[4]; while acknowledging that this is a difficult task to scale to all
languages in Wikipedia.
Let me know if you have further comments, suggestions, or questions --
happy to discuss in more detail.
Best,
Martin
[1]
https://diff.wikimedia.org/2022/04/21/a-new-research-roadmap-for-addressing…
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Knowledge_Gaps_3_Years_On#Measure_…
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Knowledge_Gaps_Index/Taxonomy
[4]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022/Bots_and_gad…
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 10:50 PM Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Fantastic. What a great teamn to work with.
We definitely need multiple reading-levels for articles, which involves
some namespace & interface magic, and new norm settings around what is
possible. Only a few language projects have managed to bolt this onto
the
side of MediaWiki (though they include some
excellent successes imo).
Where does that fit into the research-practice-MW-WP roadmap?
SJ
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 12:13 PM Martin Gerlach <mgerlach(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Hi all,
The Research team at the Wikimedia Foundation has officially started a
new
Formal Collaboration [1] with Indira Sen, Katrin
Weller, and Mareike
Wieland from GESIS – Leibniz Institute for the Social Sciences to work
collaboratively on understanding perception of readability in Wikipedia
[2]
> as part of the Addressing Knowledge Gaps Program [3]. We are thankful
to
them for
agreeing to spend their time and expertise on this project in
the
coming year.
Here are a few pieces of information about this collaboration that we
would
like to share with you:
* We aim to keep the research documentation for this project in the
corresponding research page on meta [2].
* Research tasks are hard to break down and track in task-tracking
systems.
> This being said, the page on meta is linked to an Epic level
Phabricator
task and
all tasks related to this project that can be captured on
Phabricator will be captured under here [4].
* I act as the point of contact for this research in the Wikimedia
Foundation. Please feel free to reach out to me (directly, if it cannot
be
> shared publicly) if you have comments or questions about the project.
> Best,
> Martin
> [1]
>
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Formal_collaborations
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Understanding_perception_of_readab…
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