Dear colleagues,
Here a remark/question(s) about the way how we keep record in the Wikimedia movement with regard to research papers and books about wiki related topics.
It seems to me that we have several pages for collaborative collecting the titles. For example, my first look would lead me to a bibliography page on Meta-Wiki [1]. But we have also such a page on Englisch WP [2] and on German WP, even two [3] etc.
Sometimes the pages have different goals: do they collect "all" literature" or only "relevant" titles or titles in a specific language; or are they rather a list of "recommended" works etc. Often, the pages are obviously incomplete and not up to date. Some end with the year 2019 (or actually, were not continued in the Corona times?).
What do you think? Did I simply not find the "right" page? Or what would be the best solution for creating one single page or database of wiki related works? Including machine readable information about language, specific sub topic, links to reviews etc.?
And, of course, there remains the question what is actually a wiki related work. Often a book does not have "wiki" in its title but deals with "online creation communities" or "peer production" or "social media" and has a large chapter on wikis.
Kind regards Ziko
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Research_Bibliography [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_studies_of_Wikipedia [3] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedistik/Bibliographie and https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedistik/Arbeiten
Hi Ziko,
How about WikiData? There are some scholarly articles about Wikipedia there already: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21679410
Cheers, J
On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 3:27 AM Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Here a remark/question(s) about the way how we keep record in the Wikimedia movement with regard to research papers and books about wiki related topics.
It seems to me that we have several pages for collaborative collecting the titles. For example, my first look would lead me to a bibliography page on Meta-Wiki [1]. But we have also such a page on Englisch WP [2] and on German WP, even two [3] etc.
Sometimes the pages have different goals: do they collect "all" literature" or only "relevant" titles or titles in a specific language; or are they rather a list of "recommended" works etc. Often, the pages are obviously incomplete and not up to date. Some end with the year 2019 (or actually, were not continued in the Corona times?).
What do you think? Did I simply not find the "right" page? Or what would be the best solution for creating one single page or database of wiki related works? Including machine readable information about language, specific sub topic, links to reviews etc.?
And, of course, there remains the question what is actually a wiki related work. Often a book does not have "wiki" in its title but deals with "online creation communities" or "peer production" or "social media" and has a large chapter on wikis.
Kind regards Ziko
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Research_Bibliography [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_studies_of_Wikipedia [3] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedistik/Bibliographie and https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedistik/Arbeiten
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Ziko,
Note that there is research ABOUT Wikipedia - as well as research USING Wikipedia (e.g. as a data source). And there is quite a lot - so it's a massive undertaking to keep up with the literature.
IIRC, the authors of several reviews on Wikipedia organized that work on a wiki - e.g. Wikipedia in the eyes of its beholders: A systematic review of scholarly research on Wikipedia readers and readership preprint: https://orbit.dtu.dk/files/101141772/Wikipedia_Readership_JASIST_open_access... JASIST version: https://doi.org/10.1002/asi.23162 Their wiki could be a starting point.
Other relevant links include the newsletter entries (part of Signpost): https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter
Good luck & keep us posted! -Jodi
On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 1:18 PM Jonathan Morgan jonnymorgan.esq@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ziko,
How about WikiData? There are some scholarly articles about Wikipedia there already: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21679410
Cheers, J
On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 3:27 AM Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Here a remark/question(s) about the way how we keep record in the Wikimedia movement with regard to research papers and books about wiki related topics.
It seems to me that we have several pages for collaborative collecting the titles. For example, my first look would lead me to a bibliography page on Meta-Wiki [1]. But we have also such a page on Englisch WP [2] and on German WP, even two [3] etc.
Sometimes the pages have different goals: do they collect "all" literature" or only "relevant" titles or titles in a specific language; or are they rather a list of "recommended" works etc. Often, the pages are obviously incomplete and not up to date. Some end with the year 2019 (or actually, were not continued in the Corona times?).
What do you think? Did I simply not find the "right" page? Or what would be the best solution for creating one single page or database of wiki related works? Including machine readable information about language, specific sub topic, links to reviews etc.?
And, of course, there remains the question what is actually a wiki related work. Often a book does not have "wiki" in its title but deals with "online creation communities" or "peer production" or "social media" and has a large chapter on wikis.
Kind regards Ziko
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Research_Bibliography [2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_studies_of_Wikipedia
[3] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedistik/Bibliographie and https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedistik/Arbeiten
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Hoi, The best way to learn about scholarly publications about Wikipedia is in Wikidata. It is superior because Scholia [1] will inform you about these publications, their authors, the topic in context etc.
If Scholia has one drawback, it is that it is English only. Thanks, GerardM
[1] https://scholia.toolforge.org/topic/Q52
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 at 12:27, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Here a remark/question(s) about the way how we keep record in the Wikimedia movement with regard to research papers and books about wiki related topics.
It seems to me that we have several pages for collaborative collecting the titles. For example, my first look would lead me to a bibliography page on Meta-Wiki [1]. But we have also such a page on Englisch WP [2] and on German WP, even two [3] etc.
Sometimes the pages have different goals: do they collect "all" literature" or only "relevant" titles or titles in a specific language; or are they rather a list of "recommended" works etc. Often, the pages are obviously incomplete and not up to date. Some end with the year 2019 (or actually, were not continued in the Corona times?).
What do you think? Did I simply not find the "right" page? Or what would be the best solution for creating one single page or database of wiki related works? Including machine readable information about language, specific sub topic, links to reviews etc.?
And, of course, there remains the question what is actually a wiki related work. Often a book does not have "wiki" in its title but deals with "online creation communities" or "peer production" or "social media" and has a large chapter on wikis.
Kind regards Ziko
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Research_Bibliography [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_studies_of_Wikipedia [3] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedistik/Bibliographie and https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedistik/Arbeiten
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I tend to add literature to Wikidata rather than any other wiki. I think Wikidata might give the best overview.
There may be multiple topics in Scholia that are relevant:
wiki: https://scholia.toolforge.org/topic/Q171
wikipedia: https://scholia.toolforge.org/topic/Q52 (as Gerard mentions)
Though the user interface is currently only in English, Scholia should also list items that refers to works in other language, see, e.g., for the page for Wikiversity: https://scholia.toolforge.org/topic/Q370
Unfortunately, Scholia does not link the description in the https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter. One way to get the information from the research newsletter more discoverable could be to move it to Wikiversity and link that with Wikidata. Scholia already includes English Wikiversity abstract, if available, see, e.g., https://scholia.toolforge.org/use/Q30309204
For "Wikipedia in the eyes of its beholders: A systematic review of scholarly research on wikipedia readers and readership" that Jodi Schneider referred to, we set a deadline to June 2011, so article published after that day is likely not mentioned in that review and its sister reviews.
/Finn
On 12/10/2020 10:40, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi, The best way to learn about scholarly publications about Wikipedia is in Wikidata. It is superior because Scholia [1] will inform you about these publications, their authors, the topic in context etc.
If Scholia has one drawback, it is that it is English only. Thanks, GerardM
[1] https://scholia.toolforge.org/topic/Q52
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 at 12:27, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Here a remark/question(s) about the way how we keep record in the Wikimedia movement with regard to research papers and books about wiki related topics.
It seems to me that we have several pages for collaborative collecting the titles. For example, my first look would lead me to a bibliography page on Meta-Wiki [1]. But we have also such a page on Englisch WP [2] and on German WP, even two [3] etc.
Sometimes the pages have different goals: do they collect "all" literature" or only "relevant" titles or titles in a specific language; or are they rather a list of "recommended" works etc. Often, the pages are obviously incomplete and not up to date. Some end with the year 2019 (or actually, were not continued in the Corona times?).
What do you think? Did I simply not find the "right" page? Or what would be the best solution for creating one single page or database of wiki related works? Including machine readable information about language, specific sub topic, links to reviews etc.?
And, of course, there remains the question what is actually a wiki related work. Often a book does not have "wiki" in its title but deals with "online creation communities" or "peer production" or "social media" and has a large chapter on wikis.
Kind regards Ziko
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Research_Bibliography [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_studies_of_Wikipedia [3] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedistik/Bibliographie and https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedistik/Arbeiten
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