LiAnna, is there any way the filter rules could be adjusted to allow my followup questions, please?
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: education-owner@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Tue, May 22, 2018 at 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Evaluation report on Wikipedia Fellows pilot To: jsalsman@gmail.com
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Education education@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Bcc: Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 17:50:48 -0600 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Evaluation report on Wikipedia Fellows pilot LiAnna, thank you so much for sending the list of twelve partner associations at https://wikiedu.org/partnerships/
I am copying the list here because I have more questions:
American Anthropological Association American Chemical Society American Society of Plant Biologists American Sociological Association American Studies Association Association for Psychological Science Association for Women in Mathematics Linguistic Society of America Louisiana State University, Communication across the Curriculum Midwest Political Science Association National Communication Association National Women’s Studies Association Society for Marine Mammalogy
I'd like to recommend brainstorming what a list of, say 50 such associations would look like if you picked them specifically to balance them against e.g. http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/impactofsocialsciences/files/2015/09/figure-1-wikiped...
Since I am certain you will see the merit of such work, I want to take this time to say a few words about economics. In particular, with reference to:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2018-April/006256.html
and
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2018-May/090241.html
These are very serious questions impacting the lives, livelihoods, and years of productive life of billions upon billions of people, and will probably remain as weighty for years.
In the mean time, I want to take this opportunity to reiterate my recommendation to establish an essay contest for students on topics such as economics, or any of Wikipedia's under-represented sciences or humanities. The last time we discussed this question I did not understand the reasons that you suggested such an essay contest would be inappropriate. Has your view evolved?
Best regards, Jim
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:57 PM, LiAnna Davis lianna@wikiedu.org wrote:
Answers inline!
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Juliana Bastos Marques < domusaurea@gmail.com> wrote:
I’d like to add another question. As you and others may know, I work in a particularly quarrelsome Wikipedia (PT), where there are lots of reversions of edits from newbies, even when they display knowledge of WP rules. What was the reception of the Fellows’ work among the community of editors?
There were some minor disagreements with other English Wikipedia editors,
but conversations were ultimately productive. We did have one article nominated for deletion, but the Fellow was able to successfully argue for it to not be deleted.
Em 22 de mai de 2018, à(s) 16:02, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com escreveu:
Would you please describe how you choose the subject matter of articles and expertise for inviting Fellows?
Fellows chose their own articles to improve based on their interests and expertise. We selected the associations to participate in the pilot based on our relationships with them; we're expanding future Fellows cohorts to other subject areas.
It's not clear whether the Fellows were paid or otherwise compensated; were they?
There's a reference to this in the "Recruiting Wikipedia Fellows" section (I know there's a lot in here, so I'm not surprised if you missed it!): "We encouraged partners to consider offering Fellows honoraria, travel scholarships to their conference, or conference fee waivers. Partners were amenable to the idea but most said they needed more time to be able to offer it. We hope this might be able to be built into future Fellows cohorts."
"In the past four years, the Wiki Education Foundation (Wiki
Education) has signed formal partnership agreements with academic associations to improve Wikipedia in their topic area." -- how many? Is the list public?
We've signed agreements with 12 academic associations; they're listed on our website: https://wikiedu.org/partnerships/
When you select such subjects and topics, do you consider the number of pageviews? Do you use existing WP:BACKLOG category membership? Both?
We encouraged Fellows to choose articles that would receive large page views or were core articles in their field -- subjects that they would be able to improve but a student studying that topic would struggle to effectively improve. Beyond that, we left the selection up to the Fellows.
Do you consider the harm inaccuracy or bias can do to society by infesting Wikipedia when selecting the subject and topics?
We teach all our program participants about the importance of NPOV and stress how writing for Wikipedia needs to be fact-based, encyclopedic content, not persuasive, analytical content. _______________________________________________ Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
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