Some near to mid-term changes that might be useful for everyone chiming in:
* Active Editors across all wikis is a metric we're working on, and it will be part of Wikistats 2 sometime this fiscal year * The new mediawiki history dataset will let you download data for all wikis and crunch these numbers and much more: https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/mediawiki_history/readme.html (we're close to publishing this but there's sample data for last August)
Maybe a little showcase talk is in order once the above two are completed?
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 5:09 PM Nuria Ruiz nruiz@wikimedia.org wrote:
I was looking to try and work out what percent lf the active wikimedia
community are participating on meta and comparing to another wiki farm. Any thoughts on that? I think it will help to give a bit of an example of why you are looking to find this information, why is it important. Participating in a wiki includes other things besides editions (translations for or software commits to features used on that one wiki, for example) so a precise comparison of one wiki ecosystem to the rest is quite a task.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:58 PM Jonathan Morgan jmorgan@wikimedia.org wrote:
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This sounds like it'd be a bit of work to build, and I don't think there are curated datasets to help out. I think you would need to...
- get the count of active editors on Meta for [PERIOD OF TIME]. Easy.
- perform a query or parse dumps to get the *list *of active editors
from every individual Wikimedia project for the same [PERIOD OF TIME]. Hard. 3. de-duplicate that list (since many people edit multiple wikis in a given say, month, and you don't want to overcount). Pretty easy. 4. compare the resulting all-projects count with the Meta-only count. Easy.
This sounds like a lot of work to me! Again, there might be tools or resources for this that already exist, but I'm not aware of them.
It seems like having topline/platform-level counts for active editors could be useful, as a dashboard or a public dataset. You might try requesting this as a feature https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/?title=Wikistats%20New%20Feature&projectPHIDs=Analytics-Wikistats,Analytics for WikiStats. The worst they can say is "no", or "not yet" :)
- J
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:34 PM RhinosF1 - rhinosf1@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I’ve just seen the replies and thanks to everyone whose replied.
I was looking to try and work out what percent lf the active wikimedia community are participating on meta and comparing to another wiki farm. Any thoughts on that?
RhinosF1
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 20:31, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfaker@gmail.com wrote:
It doesn't look like Active Editors works for all wikis. I think you'd have to merge activity across all wikis to get a stat like that. I'm
not
sure I know of a good data strategy to get that.
If you were to query it with quarry, you'd need to write a query for
every
wiki and then write some code to merge the results. Oof.
If you to extract it from the XML dumps, you'd need to process each
Wiki
separately and then merge the results. Oof.
The best solution to this is to have a common table/relation across all Wikis and to aggregate from there. I don't think there's any such cross-wiki table/relation available.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:38 PM Jonathan Morgan jmorgan@wikimedia.org wrote:
Same dashboard, but for "All wikis": https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/all-projects
That work?
- J
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:32 AM RhinosF1 - rhinosf1@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
That provides active users for meta but not globally. Anything for
global?
RhinosF1
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:10, Jonathan Morgan <
jmorgan@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
> RhinosF1, > > Are you looking for information like this > https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/meta.wikimedia.org, or
something
> different? > > - J > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:51 AM RhinosF1 - rhinosf1@gmail.com
wrote:
> > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know a way to find out how many wikimedia users
are
active
> > globally compared to active on metawiki? > > > > This mean they've made more than 5 edits in the last 30 days
for
this.
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