This is fantastic! I'm going to be trying it out more, but here are two pieces of immediate feedback:
1. It would be great to have the list of references indicate in some way how many times a particular reference is used. The highlighting is great, but you would still have to scroll through an article and count the number of times it is used to get an overview. One of the most confusing things about using references heavily is editing a reference once it is used repetitively (typically via the <ref name="Name"> function).
2. Distinguishing between footnotes (see: Wikipedia:Citing Sources#Foonotes) and references felt a tad rough. It clearly marked out the bare ref tags (i.e. the <> icon), but in large and high quality articles, especially Featured Articles, the separation between footnoted citations and references becomes quite important. Demo the sheep article for an example of what I'm talking about.
Kudos on a useful project,
Steven Walling On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Kurt Luther luther@cc.gatech.edu wrote:
Hi all,
We at Georgia Tech are happy to announce the release of ProveIt, our free, open source tool for finding, editing, adding, and citing references on Wikipedia. You can try out, install, or learn more about ProveIt here: http://proveit.cc.gatech.edu/
You may have seen our demo of an early version of ProveIt at WikiSym 2009, but this release is much improved on a number of fronts:
- greatly improved user interface and feature set
- as a Wikipedia user script, it shows up whenever you log in to
Wikipedia -- install once, use forever!
- works in most browsers, including Firefox, Chrome, Internet
Explorer, Safari, and Opera
- updates instantly and automatically
This release represents nearly two years of development by the ProveIt team -- congrats to all involved: Amy Bruckman, Matt Flaschen, Andrea Forte, Terris Johnson, and Chris Jordan.
Please give ProveIt a try and give us your feedback! We are excited to hear what you think and to respond to bug reports promptly. You can file a bug report at http://proveit.cc.gatech.edu/users/bugreport or email the team at proveit@cc.gatech.edu . If you are an OSS developer, please also check out our Google Code project at http://code.google.com/p/proveit-js/ -- we hope to start building a sustainable community around ProveIt.
Thanks so much for considering it!
-- Kurt and the ProveIt team
-- Kurt Luther, Ph.D. Candidate School of Interactive Computing Georgia Institute of Technology http://www.kurtluther.com/
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Steven Walling wrote:
This is fantastic! I'm going to be trying it out more, but here are two pieces of immediate feedback:
Thank you!
- It would be great to have the list of references indicate in some way
how many times a particular reference is used. The highlighting is great, but you would still have to scroll through an article and count the number of times it is used to get an overview.
This information is actually there, but only in the expanded view. You have to click the reference on the GUI to see this. We may consider putting it in the basic view.
- Distinguishing between footnotes (see: Wikipedia:Citing
Sources#Foonotes) and references felt a tad rough. It clearly marked out the bare ref tags (i.e. the <> icon), but in large and high quality articles, especially Featured Articles, the separation between footnoted citations and references becomes quite important. Demo the sheep article for an example of what I'm talking about.
This is a valid point. Currently, it does not attempt to detect (based on e.g. section on page) whether a <ref> tag is actually a reference.
Kudos on a useful project,
Thanks again,
Matthew Flaschen
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