Hi Everyone,
The next Research Showcase will be live-streamed this Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 11:30 AM (PST) 18:30 UTC.
YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC1jgK8C8aQ
As usual, you can join the conversation on IRC at #wikimedia-research. And, you can watch our past research showcases here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Showcase#July_2017.
This month's presentation:
Freedom versus Standardization: Structured Data Generation in a Peer Production CommunityBy *Andrew Hall*In addition to encyclopedia articles and software, peer production communities produce *structured data*, e.g., Wikidata and OpenStreetMap’s metadata. Structured data from peer production communities has become increasingly important due to its use by computational applications, such as CartoCSS, MapBox, and Wikipedia infoboxes. However, this structured data is usable by applications only if it follows *standards.* We did an interview study focused on OpenStreetMap’s knowledge production processes to investigate how – and how successfully – this community creates and applies its data standards. Our study revealed a fundamental tension between the need to produce structured data in a standardized way and OpenStreetMap’s tradition of contributor freedom. We extracted six themes that manifested this tension and three overarching concepts, *correctness, community,* and *code,* which help make sense of and synthesize the themes. We also offer suggestions for improving OpenStreetMap’s knowledge production processes, including new data models, sociotechnical tools, and community practices.
Kindly,
Sarah R. Rodlund Senior Project Coordinator-Product & Technology, Wikimedia Foundation srodlund@wikimedia.org
Just a reminder, the July 2017 Research Showcase will begin in one hour.
Hope to see you there!
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Sarah R srodlund@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Everyone,
The next Research Showcase will be live-streamed this Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 11:30 AM (PST) 18:30 UTC.
YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC1jgK8C8aQ
As usual, you can join the conversation on IRC at #wikimedia-research. And, you can watch our past research showcases here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Showcase#July_2017.
This month's presentation:
Freedom versus Standardization: Structured Data Generation in a Peer Production CommunityBy *Andrew Hall*In addition to encyclopedia articles and software, peer production communities produce *structured data*, e.g., Wikidata and OpenStreetMap’s metadata. Structured data from peer production communities has become increasingly important due to its use by computational applications, such as CartoCSS, MapBox, and Wikipedia infoboxes. However, this structured data is usable by applications only if it follows *standards.* We did an interview study focused on OpenStreetMap’s knowledge production processes to investigate how – and how successfully – this community creates and applies its data standards. Our study revealed a fundamental tension between the need to produce structured data in a standardized way and OpenStreetMap’s tradition of contributor freedom. We extracted six themes that manifested this tension and three overarching concepts, *correctness, community,* and *code,* which help make sense of and synthesize the themes. We also offer suggestions for improving OpenStreetMap’s knowledge production processes, including new data models, sociotechnical tools, and community practices.
Kindly,
Sarah R. Rodlund Senior Project Coordinator-Product & Technology, Wikimedia Foundation srodlund@wikimedia.org
On 25 July 2017 at 19:38, Sarah R srodlund@wikimedia.org wrote:
Freedom versus Standardization: Structured Data Generation in a Peer Production CommunityBy *Andrew Hall*
There's some discussion of the talk , on the UK OSM mailing list:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2017-July/020401.html
For what it's worth, I noted that when I tended the State of the Map USA conference last year, there seemed to be a *higher* representation of women in the conference than there were at the WikiConference USA events that I've attended. I was surprised to hear the presenter say that OSM has 95%+ male participation, and I'd like to know the origin of that number. I was so impressed by the relatively high percentage of female participants at State of the Map USA that I had a conversation with one of the organizers about how OSM seemed to be much more successful than Wikimedia at engaging female contributors. Perhaps there are at least some places in which OSM has relatively good gender diversity.
Pine
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 25 July 2017 at 19:38, Sarah R srodlund@wikimedia.org wrote:
Freedom versus Standardization: Structured Data Generation in a Peer Production CommunityBy *Andrew Hall*
There's some discussion of the talk , on the UK OSM mailing list:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2017-July/020401.html
Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Hi Pine,
Thank you for sharing your experience at State of the Map USA. In the talk on Wednesday, I was referring to a survey of 426 OSM contributors by Haklay and Budhathoki [1] from 2010 where 96% of participants said they were male.
References: 1. https://www.ideals.illinois.edu/bitstream/handle/2142/16461/Horizon%20March%...
Thanks, Andrew
On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth, I noted that when I tended the State of the Map USA conference last year, there seemed to be a *higher* representation of women in the conference than there were at the WikiConference USA events that I've attended. I was surprised to hear the presenter say that OSM has 95%+ male participation, and I'd like to know the origin of that number. I was so impressed by the relatively high percentage of female participants at State of the Map USA that I had a conversation with one of the organizers about how OSM seemed to be much more successful than Wikimedia at engaging female contributors. Perhaps there are at least some places in which OSM has relatively good gender diversity.
Pine
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 25 July 2017 at 19:38, Sarah R srodlund@wikimedia.org wrote:
Freedom versus Standardization: Structured Data Generation in a Peer Production CommunityBy *Andrew Hall*
There's some discussion of the talk , on the UK OSM mailing list:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2017-July/020401.html
Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for the info. Perhaps the statistics have changed since 2010. Are you aware of any more recent studies?
It's entirely possible that the conference that I attended was an anomaly, but in any case it would be good to have a more recent study (preferably with a larger sample size and information about how sampling was done) if that kind of information is available.
"Mapping parties" seem to be common in OSM, and if they're successful in narrowing the gender gap that information might be of interest to Leila given the kind of research that she's planning to do with trying to engage cohorts of users in Wikimedia. If you know of research about about the success of mapping parties with regards to diversity, it would be nice if you could share.
Thanks,
Pine
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Andrew Hall hall1467@umn.edu wrote:
Hi Pine,
Thank you for sharing your experience at State of the Map USA. In the talk on Wednesday, I was referring to a survey of 426 OSM contributors by Haklay and Budhathoki [1] from 2010 where 96% of participants said they were male.
References:
16461/Horizon%20March%202010%20(Haklay%20and%20Budhahtoki).pdf
Thanks, Andrew
On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth, I noted that when I tended the State of the Map USA conference last year, there seemed to be a *higher* representation of
women
in the conference than there were at the WikiConference USA events that I've attended. I was surprised to hear the presenter say that OSM has
95%+
male participation, and I'd like to know the origin of that number. I was so impressed by the relatively high percentage of female participants at State of the Map USA that I had a conversation with one of the organizers about how OSM seemed to be much more successful than Wikimedia at
engaging
female contributors. Perhaps there are at least some places in which OSM has relatively good gender diversity.
Pine
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:
On 25 July 2017 at 19:38, Sarah R srodlund@wikimedia.org wrote:
Freedom versus Standardization: Structured Data Generation in a Peer Production CommunityBy *Andrew Hall*
There's some discussion of the talk , on the UK OSM mailing list:
July/020401.html
Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
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Hi Pine,
Sure, you’re welcome. Unfortunately, I’m not aware of any more recent statistics regarding the gender of OSM contributors.
With regards to mapping party diversity work, I’ll definitely share any information I come across. I’m not aware of any at this point.
Thanks, Andrew
On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for the info. Perhaps the statistics have changed since 2010. Are you aware of any more recent studies?
It's entirely possible that the conference that I attended was an anomaly, but in any case it would be good to have a more recent study (preferably with a larger sample size and information about how sampling was done) if that kind of information is available.
"Mapping parties" seem to be common in OSM, and if they're successful in narrowing the gender gap that information might be of interest to Leila given the kind of research that she's planning to do with trying to engage cohorts of users in Wikimedia. If you know of research about about the success of mapping parties with regards to diversity, it would be nice if you could share.
Thanks,
Pine
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Andrew Hall hall1467@umn.edu wrote:
Hi Pine,
Thank you for sharing your experience at State of the Map USA. In the talk on Wednesday, I was referring to a survey of 426 OSM contributors by Haklay and Budhathoki [1] from 2010 where 96% of participants said they were male.
References:
16461/Horizon%20March%202010%20(Haklay%20and%20Budhahtoki).pdf
Thanks, Andrew
On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth, I noted that when I tended the State of the Map USA conference last year, there seemed to be a *higher* representation of
women
in the conference than there were at the WikiConference USA events that I've attended. I was surprised to hear the presenter say that OSM has
95%+
male participation, and I'd like to know the origin of that number. I was so impressed by the relatively high percentage of female participants at State of the Map USA that I had a conversation with one of the organizers about how OSM seemed to be much more successful than Wikimedia at
engaging
female contributors. Perhaps there are at least some places in which OSM has relatively good gender diversity.
Pine
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:
On 25 July 2017 at 19:38, Sarah R srodlund@wikimedia.org wrote:
Freedom versus Standardization: Structured Data Generation in a Peer Production CommunityBy *Andrew Hall*
There's some discussion of the talk , on the UK OSM mailing list:
July/020401.html
Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
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Andy: thanks for sharing this more widely. Looks like it sparked some interesting conversation (and touched a few nerves!).
I just added a link to the manuscript http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~hall/freedom_versus_standardization.pdf to the Showcase page. I hope that some of the discussion participants are motivated to learn more about the study.
Thanks again, Jonathan
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 25 July 2017 at 19:38, Sarah R srodlund@wikimedia.org wrote:
Freedom versus Standardization: Structured Data Generation in a Peer Production CommunityBy *Andrew Hall*
There's some discussion of the talk , on the UK OSM mailing list:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2017-July/020401.html
Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
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