On Reasonator, the list of matching items has a link in "You can also browse the list here." That link will take you to AutoList. I have added a new download function (next to "Permalink" and "Embed") that lets you download all the AutoList results with labels, descriptions, and site links in the current language as a tabbed file.
Does that help?
Cheers, Magnus
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
Gerard, That link you just sent shows the names in the category (I see there are already a few more than 264 - cool). Could it be possible to have the Q numbers shown as well? Now I see the Q number with mouse-over, but if Magnus (cc'ing him now) could let me screen-scrape those then I can first update my data and then send you my m-f data with Q numbers. Jane
2014-04-21 9:03 GMT+02:00, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi, There are only 264 people identified as Radcliffe alumni. Someone did a
job
on adding this fact to Wikidata so I started off with some 250 already. I completed the list. The category information on Wikidata includes a query that shows you the current number.. There is a similar query on the
Harvars
alumni category by the way.
http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?&q=8618565
As to your proposal to have a list and idenfity the Wikidata items from them.. Given that ToolScript does JavaScript, it should be doable. I
would
ask Magnus to write an example that I could copy and change.. Thanks, GerardM
On 21 April 2014 08:28, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
Gerard, Actually historically speaking, there will be fewer Harvard alumni as women because they graduated from Radcliffe, not Harvard, no?
Anyway, how about a trade - I will send you all of my male-female data with Wikipedia entity names, and you send me back the Q numbers? Or can you only accept data with Q numbers as a field?
Jane
2014-04-21 7:58 GMT+02:00, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi, I blogged about the issue of sex ratios on Wikidata [1]. The
experiment
I did with Harvard alumni was to get some idea about the number of
humans
who
were not yet known as human. I added a substantial number of them to have an item for each entry in the category on the English Wikipedia. I assume that as a group they are relatively well covered; they are ivy league and some of the best and brightest studied there. When you look at the sex ratio for the Harvard educated, you will find that it is worse than
for
the
general population. I suppose it is an indication of the amount of items that still need to be identified as human. Thanks, Gerard
[1]
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/04/wikidata-its-sex-ratio.html
On 21 April 2014 00:53, Stuart A. Yeates syeates@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
To be blunt, Wikidata gains the quantitative quality I am looking for
when only male and female
is added where applicable. Transgender issues with respect are edge
cases.
Transgender issues are primarily raised because they're vitally important for people today, but they're not the only issues.
Far more numerically superior are the issues of people writing under other-gendered pseudonyms; that's a systemic problem, in the GND data for example. "Lord Charles Albert" "Florian Wellesley" and "Currer Bell" were only outed as pseudonyms of Charlotte Brontë once she achieved a certain level of fame. Modern analysis suggests that there are probably thousands if not tens of thousands of other writers who never achieved that level of fame and never had their pseudonyms revealed. GND and similar library data commonly base their gender
data
on nothing more than the apparent gender of the name on the cover
page
(librarianship practice, unlike archival practise, takes such things at face value). To take that librarianship practise out of context
and
assert that that those thousands or tens of thousands of authors were men (rather than just publishing under male or ambiguous names) isn't going to get you sued, but that doesn't mean it's not the white-washing of generations of women writers.
cheers stuart
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