Hello, indeed a very interesting topic, and one should really treat small and big Wikipedias as very different kinds of websites. Just alone that on big Wikipedias, you have and use a watchlist, while on a small Wikipedia, you basically use the Recent changes. A systematic comparison would be great. My paper ten years ago was more a survey on the topic by itself: Ziko van Dijk: Wikipedia and lesser-resourced languages. In: *Language Problems and Language Planning* 33 (2009, Nr. 3, Herbst), S. 234-255. Actually in the book I am working on right now, such a systematic comparison would be a very useful example for how to apply my wiki model... :-) Kind regards Ziko
Am Do., 3. Okt. 2019 um 21:13 Uhr schrieb Lucie Kaffee < lucie.kaffee@gmail.com>:
Just adding a small point I saw while interviewing editors of different language Wikipedias: I believe (and haven't further investigated, so take this with a grain of salt) that there is also a general difference in the behavior of "small" and "large" communities, e.g., in trust between the editors and how they work together. This seemed to be independent of other cultural context, but this is rather anecdotal and would be interesting to see further investigated. I find it generally a very interesting topic and look forward to what results from the discussion here, so far I see research only applying their methods across Wikipedias rather than drawing conclusion from one language version to another. Thanks Isaac also for the collection of reading material :)
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 16:23 Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Thanks a lot for bringing this up.
Sorry for not offering a solution, but I do want to mention a frequently-missed aspect of the problem: Wikis in different languages
have
some differences that are understandable because they reflect some objective cultural characteristics of the people who speak it. But some differences are artificial and exit because in the early days of
Wikimedia
(mid-2000s) there were no convenient ways for wikis to communicate and share info. There were no global accounts and no convenient translation tools.
Templates are still not global, even though there is huge demand for
it,[1]
and a lot of community process are implemented using templates: requests for deletion, requests for unblocking, article sorting for WikiProjects, stub sorting. Many of these things could be unified, at least partially,
by
making templates global, and among many benefits, it would make research easier, too.
[1] It came at #3 in the Community Wishlist vote in 2015, and at #1 in 2016. Despite this demand, it was not implemented :(
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בתאריך יום ד׳, 2 באוק׳ 2019 ב-14:37 מאת Jan Dittrich < jan.dittrich@wikimedia.de>:
Hello researchers,
A lot of research on Wikipedia is published in English and also uses
the
English Wikipedia as source of data or researchers get their
participants
via English Wikipedia [0].
A frequent criticism I meet when discussing such research with
non-en.wp
community members is that their Wikipedia is different and the results
of
en.wp base research are problematic/incomparable/totally useless.
So I want to ask:
- Do you know of research comparing different Wikis, preferably across
language versions? [1]
- How would you deal with such criticism, particularly of the "if it is
not
about 'my' wp it is useless"-kind [2]?
Kind Regards, Jan
[0] Plausible due to academi fields, particularly Computer Science, publishing mainly in english, size and WMF as actor being US-based. [1] I know of »revisiting "The Rise and Decline" in a Population of
Peer
Production Projects« (https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=3173929), comparing different Wikia-Wikis; Research like "limits of self-organization" (https://firstmonday.org/article/view/1405/1323)
that
refer to general principles of peer production. Comparisons of
Wikipedias
across languages and the impact of their different contexts, languages
and
regulations would be very interesting to me. [2] I'm aware that making heterogeneous things comparable is seen as a
core
academic/scientific activity in STS research (Law, SL Star, Turnbull…)
so I
do not want to say, transfer to a different setting is not a problem –
but
it is certainly not "totally useless" either.
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