Am 05.06.2015 um 01:05 schrieb Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org:
"We should concentrate on factual data for research" in a long email about how everything is ruined forever because a moderator couldn't find anything of value in an uncited claim that Jan-Bart actively drove people away?
This must be what people mean by "mixed methods" ;)
It has really been a very long road of frustration that lies behind the Community and what they call the "Wikimedia movement". I'd bet someone from within the Wikimedia apparatus with a Wikimedia email address would argue like that.
I think what Nemo (Nemo, please correct me if I'm wrong) and I wanted to get across was that you have no right to speak like that vis-à-vis a volunteer who, as far as I am concerned, has spent ten years of his life building up a project that today has grown up to make /your/ living. It was yesterday exactly ten years ago that I made my first edit on Wikipedia. This is what /we/ call the community. You lack respect and tact towards the volunteers. I am sorry that I have to say so.
The point is that Wikimedia-l does not have a blacklist, but rather a Whitelist. Moderation happened after I subscribed to the list with a different email address. It's really that closed a circle.
Now, where should we go to discuss this now that there is no more Wikimedia-l left for that? I for one will not post any more to the research list about this matter because I gather its readers are in fact interested in other things. So, it's really EOD from my side.
Best, Jürgen.