Got it. Thanks for the clarification Kerry. I share your perception, but don't have data either.
- Jonathan
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raymond@gmail.com wrote:
I said "where I am suggesting that we don’t allow new users to edit articles of higher importance, higher quality, higher readership, or higher page-watcher-ship, or about living people because I strongly suspect that this is where new users are at much higher risk of reverting"
I entirely agree with you that editing Donald Trump would not be a good new user experience. I run all my edit training sessions and new-user 1Lib1Ref edit-a-thons on "low risk" articles as I perceive them. I am just curious if my perception of revert risk for new users matches statistical reality.
Kerry
-----Original Message----- From: Wiki-research-l [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Morgan Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2018 4:30 AM To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities < wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Revert data by article importance/quality/readership/watchership/BLP
Kerry,
Did you really mean "not allow" here? IMO we (WMF, researchers, Wikipedians) shouldn't be in the business of creating Yet Another Barrier to newcomer contribution.
*Suggesting* that people avoid making their first edit to the article on Donald Trump, etc.--sure, that's a good "teachable moment" and probably helps shield newcomers from unnecessary confusion and hostility.
I also believe that we could make progress by *recommending *articles for newcomers to edit based on some combination of 1) quality improvement needed, 2) low likelihood that good faith edits will be immediately reverted 3) topic is of general interest OR topic is likely to be of interest to newcomer based on their stated preferences or their editing history.
The data necessary to run a study like the one you're looking for is all public and so I think a study like this could be done. But to my knowledge no one has done it yet.
- Jonathan
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 20 March 2018 at 11:40, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:
I can understand your reasoning, but consider who this would impact things like [...]
*how* this would impact...
Apologies.
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