On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Reid Priedhorsky reid@reidster.net wrote:
On 4/26/11 4:06 PM, Jon Phillips wrote:
Hi Reid, thanks for the detailed discussion. Our best course of action is to transition to the virtualized setup at wikimedia foundation to minimize steps.
There is no reason to transition twice if we can move to WMF infrastructure soon. There is no burning fire on CC hosting.
Hi Jon,
Thanks for the reply! An implicit purpose for my proposal was to light a fire under people, and that seems to have been successful.
Excellent!
I see two problems with the current setup which feel urgent to me.
First, the current AcaWiki skin is not so good. For the reasons I've mentioned earlier, I believe this negatively impacts our ability to grow the community.
Great, Fabricatorz is making a new theme. We will try to be as transparent as possible about this...ideas and thoughts on this super valuable!
Second, I am concerned about the reliability of the current hosting. For one, people have had difficulty getting problems resolved recently. This concern is shared with others - I know at least one person who is making regular dumps of AcaWiki because he does not have confidence in the backup plan (or, there isn't one).
Moving from CC to an intermediate provider would solve both these problems. However, I agree that one move is better than two - I'm happy to discuss other solutions as well.
Ok, so the problem sounds more like a development problem. I have extreme confidence in the CC sysadmin who is working on this who is a good friend of mine, and in close contact about issues.
On th dev front, Fabricatorz are taking a lead on resolving issues. It appears all issues have been resolved from the CC issue tracker.
So, please file bugs on the new wikimedia bug tracker if you see problems and we will work to resolve them together.
The reason I feel urgency is this: I'm itching to start work on the annotated bibliography of wiki research we've been discussing on wiki-research-l (which would quadruple the number of summaries in AcaWiki), and I'm uncomfortable doing so with these two problems unsolved (or, at least, without a concrete plan for solving them and a credible, short timeline).
I understand. I'm on this. Don't you worry :)
Best thing next imo is to file a bug about this and spec out your plan and what it will take. Sounds like some development needed. Ideal if you can do everything with the current setup and not need ssh access.
One scenario I would like to avoid is the move to WMF being "real soon now" for a long time, as that's a common issue with such moves. But, we could be on Referata within a few weeks easily.
This is high priority task. But, it should not block your development, planning and so forth. If you let us all know what you want, we can plan better.
Cheers
Jon