Hi Richard;
Yes, a distributed project would be probably the best solution, but it is
not easy to develop, unless you use a library like bittorrent, or similar
and you have many peers. Althought most of the people don't seed the files
long time, so sometimes is better to depend on a few committed persons than
a big but ephemeral crowd.
Regards,
emijrp
2011/6/26 Richard Farmbrough <richard(a)farmbrough.co.uk>
> **
> It would be useful to have an archive of archives. I have to delete my
> old data dumps as time passes, for space reasons, however a team could,
> between them, maintain multiple copies of every data dump. This would make a
> nice distributed project.
>
> On 26/06/2011 13:53, emijrp wrote:
>
> Hi all;
>
> Can you imagine a day when Wikipedia is added to this list?[1]
>
> WikiTeam have developed a script[2] to download all the Wikipedia dumps
> (and her sister projects) from dumps.wikimedia.org. It sorts in folders
> and checks md5sum. It only works on Linux (it uses wget).
>
> You will need about 100GB to download all the 7z files.
>
> Save our memory.
>
> Regards,
> emijrp
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_libraries
> [2]
> http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/source/browse/trunk/wikipediadownloader.py
>
>
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>
>
>
2011/6/22 Delphine Ménard <delphine(a)notafish.org>:
> Since you mentioned that you'd like other icons, I've made some for fun,
> please see attached.
>
> They are svg files originally and of course under whichever license suits
> your project. If you like them, I'll upload them on Commons, tell me which
> license is the best.
>
> The editor icon is "supposed" to be unisex, and I made it blue not to hurt
> any susceptibilities ;). If you want other colors, just tell me :)
Wow thanks Delphine, they are much better! You should be able to see
them live on wikistream.inkdroid.org now :-)
//Ed
Dear all,
my name is Ilektra Pavlaki and I am currently working on my master thesis for the University of Amsterdam. For the past 5 months I have been following the campaign for the development of the Greek-language Wikipedia which is supported by the Ministry of Education. I would like to ask if you have heard of any other Wikipedia project that has the support of a state agency.
Thank you in advance for your help!
Ilektra
I agree with you, Stuart.
You know, the first part of your proposal is what many researchers
do: they publish papers under restrictive licences, but reports,
data sets used for researching and even PhD dissertation are
published under a free licence.
And let me explain other strategy for getting open research: it's
asking governaments to obly by law to publish under free licence
the work funded by them or made by public univs. This is something
WikiMedia Chapter could work on.
In this sense some countries are taking some steps. For example,
Spanish Gobernament has recently approved a law so every
researcher funded by them has to publish the results of his work
in an open directory. More info in Spanish [1].
Best,
Manuel
[1]
http://oaulpgc.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/aprobada-la-ley-de-la-ciencia/
> From: R.Stuart Geiger <sgeiger(a)gmail.com>
> Date: 2011/6/13
> Subject: [Wiki-research-l] Closed-sourced papers on open source
> communities
> To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities <
> wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
> Greetings wikiresearchers,
>
> As many of you know (and as we've discussed on this list before),
> the
> copyright licensing of academic papers about communities like
> Wikipedia is a huge issue. I've just written up a blog post
> about
> this, but the tl;dr is that I have a bit of a solution, be it a
> partial one. The gist is basically that asking academics to
> release
> *papers* under a free license is the wrong strategy. Instead, we
> should encourage academics to release *research* under a free
> license,
> and that this can be done in such a way that still makes it
> complies
> with most of the contradictory obligations we have found
> ourselves in.
>
> It is quite possible to document a research project, its
> motivations,
> its methods, its background, its findings, and even all those
> charts
> and graphs on Meta, using the new Research: namespace and
> corresponding templates that were *just* launched -- which
> everyone
> should check out anyway. And while I'd love some legal
> non-advice on
> this, I think we can do this in such a way that whenever it comes
> time
> to assign copyright to the ACM, all of the CC-BY/CC-BY-SA
> licensed
> graphs can be "used with permission" in a published research
> paper.
> Anyways, the link is below, and I'd love to get some feedback on
> it:
> http://www.stuartgeiger.com/wordpress/random-thoughts/2011/06/12/closed-sou…
>
> Thanks!
> Stuart Geiger
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Dear all,
As you will be aware OKCon 2011 is approaching fast: June, 30th & July, 1st
We are delighted to announce the release of the OKCon 2011 programme:
http://okcon.org/2011/programme
We are also thrilled about the fantastic line up of speakers:
http://okcon.org/2011/speakers
OKCon will be buzzing with open knowledge and open data enthusiasts and is an excellent opportunity to meet people and do thins! It's also a great place to distribute promotional items to get people involved in your projects. If you have banners, flyers, posters or stickers to promote a projects we will gladly help to find space to display them at the venue.
If anyone would like to post items to Germany ahead of the conference, please send them to the OKF Germany office and we will make sure they get to the conference venue for you.
OKF Deutschland, Prenzlauer Allee 217, 10405 Berlin, Germany
To make sure members of the community, working groups and community ambassadors don't miss out, we have created the special *discount code*: OKBERLIN for a €5 discount on your ticket. Simply enter the code when registering at http://okcon2011.eventbrite.com/
We look forward to meeting you at our wonderful venue, Kalkscheune: http://www.kalkscheune.de/en
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Greetings wikiresearchers,
As many of you know (and as we've discussed on this list before), the
copyright licensing of academic papers about communities like
Wikipedia is a huge issue. I've just written up a blog post about
this, but the tl;dr is that I have a bit of a solution, be it a
partial one. The gist is basically that asking academics to release
*papers* under a free license is the wrong strategy. Instead, we
should encourage academics to release *research* under a free license,
and that this can be done in such a way that still makes it complies
with most of the contradictory obligations we have found ourselves in.
It is quite possible to document a research project, its motivations,
its methods, its background, its findings, and even all those charts
and graphs on Meta, using the new Research: namespace and
corresponding templates that were *just* launched -- which everyone
should check out anyway. And while I'd love some legal non-advice on
this, I think we can do this in such a way that whenever it comes time
to assign copyright to the ACM, all of the CC-BY/CC-BY-SA licensed
graphs can be "used with permission" in a published research paper.
Anyways, the link is below, and I'd love to get some feedback on it:
http://www.stuartgeiger.com/wordpress/random-thoughts/2011/06/12/closed-sou…
Thanks!
Stuart Geiger
On the left sidebar on the map you have two links "Ratings" and "Comments".
I have left a comment asking about how to add new wikis. Can you drop a line
with the wikis you want to add? Regards.
2011/6/11 Juliana da Costa José <julianadacostajose(a)googlemail.com>
> Wow, very interesting. But there are not allready all Wikis inside. I know
> especially from Germany two, three RegioWikis who are missing.
> How the tool is working?
>
> Juliana
>
>
Hi,
I am currently working on an update of a report dealing with the
relation between Wikimedia and academia (see the English abstract below
if you are interested), which will appear in the upcoming book
"Cyberscience 2.0" by Michael Nentwich and me.
For this purpose I have 2 questions:
1. Is anybody aware of examples for academic canonization by using
Wikipedia (or other Wikimedia projects)? My hypothesis is that Wikipedia
could be potentially used for this purpose, namely when many relevant
researchers discuss a certain article and eventually come to new
conclusions, definitions etc.
2. Do you know empirical studies dealing with the academic usage of
Wikibooks and Wikiversity (especially for research)? There seems to be
lack of concrete empirical studies of these platforms from this perspective.
Help is appreciated.
Best,
René
Report (German):
König, R., Nentwich, M. (2009): Wissenschaft in Wikipedia und anderen
Wikimedia-Projekten. Steckbrief II im Rahmen des Projekts Interactive
Science. Institut für Technikfolgen-Abschätzung, Wien.
http://epub.oeaw.ac.at/ita/ita-projektberichte/d2-2a52-2.pdf
English abstract:
In this report we examine the potential of Wikipedia, Wikibooks and Wiki-
versity for academic communication. Firstly, we introduce the pioneer
project
Wikipedia and the following projects by the Wikimedia Foundation by outlin-
ing their historical development and basic functional principles.
Secondly, we
focus on the scholarly use of the different platforms. Starting with
Wikipedia
and followed by Wikibooks and Wikiversity, we analyze each project re-
garding its peculiarities that contrast it from the others, its size and
range, its
academic content, its authors, and the way it is used for teaching,
collabora-
tion and research.
We found that in all examined projects academic engagement is presented
through scholarly content itself and through the related communicative proc-
esses such as teaching and partly collaboration and research. However,
there
are significant differences in the way and the range this engagement
appears.
Therefore, the results show two sides: On the one hand, Wikipedia has enor-
mous public and growing academic relevance. Additionally the encyclopae-
dia depends on many areas of knowledge with scientific expertise in
order to
be qualitatively satisfying. This leads to a kind of „forced marriage”
between
Wikipedia and academia. On the other hand, Wikibooks and Wikiversity seem
to be less successful compared to their sister project, which is why
there are
only weak connections between academia and these platforms so far. In all
cases the social and technological dynamics of the projects make it
difficult,
if not impossible, to estimate their long-time future influence on
scholarly
communication. Therefore we suggest continuing to observe them from this
perspective.
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While awaiting the Okoli-review I have updated my Wikipedia/wiki review
with a few extra pages and references:
http://www2.imm.dtu.dk/pubdb/views/edoc_download.php/6012/pdf/imm6012.pdf
I've also added some hyperlinks.
Of further interest to Wikipedia researchers may also be the 'Wikipedia'
page on the Brede Wiki which has links to researchers, tools and papers:
http://neuro.imm.dtu.dk/wiki/Wikipedia
Please feel free to edit.
/Finn
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