Hello,
On a side of the extension discussion I asked myself a question: How should plain editors use the new maps?
I can imagine the following simple things that most people would probably want to do first:
1. just put a static map in the article 2. overlay the static map with some simple layer of images (like it's done with templates using CSS)
How should they do (1)? Our current extensions provide usually some tag with coordinates as parameters. Do you think it would be feasible that we could allow use of OSM URLs, so that the user can just go to OSM, pan and zoom as they wish, pick a permalink or shortlink and paste it into some MediaWiki tag?
Any thoughts on solving (2) better? I thinking about something simpler than what we have now (since we should be able to provide custom layers anyway at some point).
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:31:27 +0200 Marcin Cieslak saper@saper.info wrote:
Hello,
On a side of the extension discussion I asked myself a question: How should plain editors use the new maps?
I can imagine the following simple things that most people would probably want to do first:
- just put a static map in the article
- overlay the static map with some simple layer of images (like it's
done with templates using CSS)
How should they do (1)? Our current extensions provide usually some tag with coordinates as parameters. Do you think it would be feasible that we could allow use of OSM URLs, so that the user can just go to OSM, pan and zoom as they wish, pick a permalink or shortlink and paste it into some MediaWiki tag?
Any thoughts on solving (2) better? I thinking about something simpler than what we have now (since we should be able to provide custom layers anyway at some point).
I was working putting some icons and popus on a map using openlayer but I wish that my system works with my regular cellphone openlayer don't work fine with that cellphone then I plain to make some program to transform the info that I put on maps to a bitmap and merge with map tiles If I do that generating statics map can be almost trivial These statics maps can contain my icons or larger images so we can solve point 2 also. Also we can make a permalink too. I think that can be simple for the user. Saludos , Jorge
Hello, to 1.) I hope that we can use the export-tab in OSM to allowed editors to simple create maps in Mediawikis.
to 2.) For mark-ups I hope we find a system like Query-to-map [1] so that a short entry in the wiki makes thinks like river, borders, city districts and streets visible. There we need further development to merge it with the current extension for higher performance and rendering also in the static map. Also would it be nice if everything outside a specify area could draw darker... So help is welcome.
Additionally, I think we need a clickable wikipedia layer in OSM-maps else the users will ask us why they get such a wikipedia-layer at google-maps but not at wikipedia.
Greetings Kolossos
[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Query-to-map
Marcin Cieslak schrieb:
Hello,
On a side of the extension discussion I asked myself a question: How should plain editors use the new maps?
I can imagine the following simple things that most people would probably want to do first:
- just put a static map in the article
- overlay the static map with some simple layer of images (like it's
done with templates using CSS)
How should they do (1)? Our current extensions provide usually some tag with coordinates as parameters. Do you think it would be feasible that we could allow use of OSM URLs, so that the user can just go to OSM, pan and zoom as they wish, pick a permalink or shortlink and paste it into some MediaWiki tag?
Any thoughts on solving (2) better? I thinking about something simpler than what we have now (since we should be able to provide custom layers anyway at some point).
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I making some test around a a Vector Layers with openlayer Then when I read this mail I make a program to test 3 things 1) render nodes from osm 2) render ways from osm like rivers , etc 3) render closed ways from osm like lake , parks ,etc
now I use the api to obtain some info about ways . If I get a way with first node = last node I consider that is a closed way and render a polygon
I make all of this thinking in point 2) from original mail and also in a system like Query-to-map For a system like Query-to-map I prefer something line namefinder ( the search box from openstreetmap ). So I put hands on keyboard and get this program :
http://cassini.toolserver.org/~chamorro/namefinder
you can test with something like "eiffel,paris" to locate Eiffel tower for example
on map you can get the 3 things that I say , nodes have text in black , ways have text in blue and polygons have text in red . If you select one of this things you get some info upper with a link to openstreetmap
Some times namefinder don't work fine , so I have http://cassini.toolserver.org/~chamorro/namefinder/fixed-1.php and http://cassini.toolserver.org/~chamorro/namefinder/fixed-2.php with pre-recorded info from namefinder.
the program that I wrote it's only for testing purposes but something like this is that I think that can be useful for a user . The user find something with a service like namefinder . Then get a lot of things rendered on a map , select one ( o more ) and we make a permalink. They can select more than one thing because a river can be splitted in several ways on openstreetmap.
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:13:18 +0200 Tim Alder tim.alder@s2002.tu-chemnitz.de wrote:
Hello, to 1.) I hope that we can use the export-tab in OSM to allowed editors to simple create maps in Mediawikis.
to 2.) For mark-ups I hope we find a system like Query-to-map [1] so that a short entry in the wiki makes thinks like river, borders, city districts and streets visible. There we need further development to merge it with the current extension for higher performance and rendering also in the static map. Also would it be nice if everything outside a specify area could draw darker... So help is welcome.
Additionally, I think we need a clickable wikipedia layer in OSM-maps else the users will ask us why they get such a wikipedia-layer at google-maps but not at wikipedia.
Greetings Kolossos
[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Query-to-map
Marcin Cieslak schrieb:
Hello,
On a side of the extension discussion I asked myself a question: How should plain editors use the new maps?
I can imagine the following simple things that most people would probably want to do first:
- just put a static map in the article
- overlay the static map with some simple layer of images (like it's
done with templates using CSS)
How should they do (1)? Our current extensions provide usually some tag with coordinates as parameters. Do you think it would be feasible that we could allow use of OSM URLs, so that the user can just go to OSM, pan and zoom as they wish, pick a permalink or shortlink and paste it into some MediaWiki tag?
Any thoughts on solving (2) better? I thinking about something simpler than what we have now (since we should be able to provide custom layers anyway at some point).
Maps-l mailing list Maps-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/maps-l
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