On 02/04/2010 03:41 PM, Tim Alder wrote:
Hello, the usage of more than one Wikipedia language
would be cool.
The connection of Wikipedia and OSM should be a central point on our servers.
We have a big collection of Wikipedia POIs (>600.000) and I have the
idea that we should transfer it half-automatic to OSM-objects. There
are some reasons why I think that a automatical solution seems not
possible:
*WP collects only point coordinates. It's not possible to transfer it
to line and area objects in OSM.
*we would get duplicate entries if we would copy the points to OSM.
*there are legal concerns because it is no secret that WP gets some
coordinates from google Earth images.
So a tool or a JOSM plugin would be nice to drag the wp-Coordinates to
existing OSM object easily. So you wouldn't take the coords directly
(legal concerns).
This sound like a lot of manual,stupid,double work but the usage of
the datas would be than more easily. We couldn't stop OSM to link to
wikipedia, so we should work that it's going in the right direction.
I believe that it would be not useful to overflow the OSM database
with links to all wp-languages, the english and a alternative WP links
should be enough. But on our servers we should have a database with
all languages filled up with the help of interwikilinks. So we could
provide a map with Wikipedia objects in each language and we could
perhaps also link from Wikipedia to this objects which is interesting
for long objects like rivers.
I think in that respect it might be worth mentioning some efforts people
have recently done to link OpenStreetMap objects to external pages such
as wikipedi, in case it is not already known. OpenLinkMap (
http://olm.openstreetmap.de/ ) has taken the wikipedia= and url= tags
from osm objects and presented those as html links on a slippy map.
There they have also used the wikipedia:de, wikipedia:fr, ... links as
far as I know. And on the german osm mailing list (
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2010-January/062166.html and
following topic ), there have been some discussions of how to link the
various different language articles, and if it should use inter wiki
links or otherwise.
Currently there seem to be somewhere around 50.000 wikipedia= tags in
the OSM database and another 1 - 2 thousand for wikipedia:de,
wikipedia:fr wikipedia:es, and a lot less for other languages.
I am not sure if the use of those tags has fully stabilized yet, as the
openlinkmap I think is the first larger effort to use those tags which
was only presented a few days ago. So there is potential for wikipedia
users to chip into the discussion to see what makes most sense from
their point of view.
It might be easier to link from OSM to wikipedia than the other way
round, as the textual keys of the wikipedia articles probably lend them
selves better than the changing numeric IDs of OSM objects for cross
referencing.
Kai
If a column for each of the>200 languages would be to much, I would
say that the 20 most popular languages would be nice:
en,de,nl,ru,fr,it,ja,es,ca,pl,pt,sv,da,cs,fi,no,eo,zh,sk,tr.
Greetings Kolossos
Zitat von Kai Krueger<kakrueger(a)gmail.com>om>:
On 02/04/2010 12:16 PM, River Tarnell wrote:
Okay, the database is now empty and ready to be
imported.
Great!
Peter, would it be possible to add a few more tags to the osm2pgsql style?
addr:postcode, population, height and maxspeed might be useful tags to
have in addition. Also perhaps some more of the wikipedia links might be
useful such as wikipedia:de wikipedia:en wikipedia:es, and wikipedi:fr
I assume you will otherwise use the style at
https://svn.toolserver.org/svnroot/mazder/planet-import/wikimedia.extended.…
?
Thanks,
Kai
- river.
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