On 02/04/2010 03:41 PM, Tim Alder wrote:
Hello, the usage of more than one Wikipedia language would be cool. The connection of Wikipedia and OSM should be a central point on our servers.
We have a big collection of Wikipedia POIs (>600.000) and I have the idea that we should transfer it half-automatic to OSM-objects. There are some reasons why I think that a automatical solution seems not possible: *WP collects only point coordinates. It's not possible to transfer it to line and area objects in OSM. *we would get duplicate entries if we would copy the points to OSM. *there are legal concerns because it is no secret that WP gets some coordinates from google Earth images.
So a tool or a JOSM plugin would be nice to drag the wp-Coordinates to existing OSM object easily. So you wouldn't take the coords directly (legal concerns). This sound like a lot of manual,stupid,double work but the usage of the datas would be than more easily. We couldn't stop OSM to link to wikipedia, so we should work that it's going in the right direction.
I believe that it would be not useful to overflow the OSM database with links to all wp-languages, the english and a alternative WP links should be enough. But on our servers we should have a database with all languages filled up with the help of interwikilinks. So we could provide a map with Wikipedia objects in each language and we could perhaps also link from Wikipedia to this objects which is interesting for long objects like rivers.
I think in that respect it might be worth mentioning some efforts people have recently done to link OpenStreetMap objects to external pages such as wikipedi, in case it is not already known. OpenLinkMap ( http://olm.openstreetmap.de/ ) has taken the wikipedia= and url= tags from osm objects and presented those as html links on a slippy map.
There they have also used the wikipedia:de, wikipedia:fr, ... links as far as I know. And on the german osm mailing list ( http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2010-January/062166.html and following topic ), there have been some discussions of how to link the various different language articles, and if it should use inter wiki links or otherwise.
Currently there seem to be somewhere around 50.000 wikipedia= tags in the OSM database and another 1 - 2 thousand for wikipedia:de, wikipedia:fr wikipedia:es, and a lot less for other languages.
I am not sure if the use of those tags has fully stabilized yet, as the openlinkmap I think is the first larger effort to use those tags which was only presented a few days ago. So there is potential for wikipedia users to chip into the discussion to see what makes most sense from their point of view.
It might be easier to link from OSM to wikipedia than the other way round, as the textual keys of the wikipedia articles probably lend them selves better than the changing numeric IDs of OSM objects for cross referencing.
Kai
If a column for each of the>200 languages would be to much, I would say that the 20 most popular languages would be nice: en,de,nl,ru,fr,it,ja,es,ca,pl,pt,sv,da,cs,fi,no,eo,zh,sk,tr.
Greetings Kolossos
Zitat von Kai Kruegerkakrueger@gmail.com:
On 02/04/2010 12:16 PM, River Tarnell wrote:
Okay, the database is now empty and ready to be imported.
Great!
Peter, would it be possible to add a few more tags to the osm2pgsql style?
addr:postcode, population, height and maxspeed might be useful tags to have in addition. Also perhaps some more of the wikipedia links might be useful such as wikipedia:de wikipedia:en wikipedia:es, and wikipedi:fr
I assume you will otherwise use the style at https://svn.toolserver.org/svnroot/mazder/planet-import/wikimedia.extended.s... ?
Thanks,
Kai
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