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Fwd: Wikimaps + historical maps in Facebook
by Susanna Ånäs 04 Jun '13

04 Jun '13

We created a public group for Wikimaps on Facebook. The group is still small, but the aim is to gather people from different edges of the discussion, from glammers to mappers. It's less about Wikimaps and more about historical maps on the net. Language is free, English understood better than others. It will be a mixture of local awareness and global discussion. Please join! It's at https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikimaps/ Susanna -- *Susanna Ånäs* Wikimedia Suomi <http://fi.wikimedia.org/wiki/Etusivu> GLAM <http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM> – tiedotus – yhteistyö Puhelin: +358 40 557 8039 Sähköposti: susanna.anas(a)wikimedia.fi Wikimedia Suomi <http://blog.wikimedia.fi/> -blogi on aloitettu! Seuraa meitä Twitterissä @ <https://twitter.com/WMFinland>WMFinland<https://twitter.com/WMFinland>tai Facebookissa <https://www.facebook.com/WikimediaSuomi>. Liity jäseneksi!<http://fi.wikimedia.org/wiki/Liity_j%C3%A4seneksi>

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Re: [Maps-l] Maps-l Digest, Vol 43, Issue 4
by FR Lopez Hugo 31 May '13

31 May '13

Hello Susanna, 1. On commons, neither NordNordWest (one of the best and leading DE cartographer) nor Bourrichon (one of the best and leading FR cartographer) used any machine-readable template for their recent GIS maps.[1][2][3] The best they do is to use {location} to state the center of the maps. The North, South, East, West borders and stretching are hard coded without template. This is indeed something needing change. 2. On local wikipedias, there are {location map COUNTRYNAME} templates to display GIS maps which store these very same values in a machine-readable way[4:wp] while the commons page have them hard coded[3:commons]. So technically, we may mass import these GIS based maps to a georeferenced system. [1]: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Georgia_location_map.sv… [2]: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Three_Sisters_Range_top… [3]: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:South_Korea_location_ma… [4]: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Location_map_South_Korea… Cheer,

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Re: [Maps-l] Wikimaps: About the template for maps
by Susanna Ånäs 31 May '13

31 May '13

We have different needs at different stages of the process. Please add and correct 1. Upload with the GlamWIKI tool and storage as image in the Commons - Generally bibliographic data, sometimes includes information about location (what kind?) 2. Storage after georeferencing. Data in Wikidata or attached to the file in Commons? New information: - Georeference control points (coordinates vs pixels) - Geographic bounding box of the new rectified image? - Stored, rectified image file? Should it be generated and stored? 3. Export to different file formats, on-the-fly? - KML, GeoTIFF... Please note that I have only general knowledge of some of the technologies, so this was just to structure. I am cc:ing Lesley Kadish, who works with the Finnish National Archives on the georeferencing project, map curator at the Minnesota Historical Society Susanna 2013/5/31 David Haskiya <David.Haskiya(a)kb.nl> > ** ** > > Hi,**** > > In the GLAMwiki toolset project we have been told that storing XML (like > e.g. KML) as files is an unacceptable safety risk. And so we’re refactoring > the code to use the ContentHandler.**** > > ** ** > > I’m unsure if this applies to also user created KML-files but something to > be aware of.**** > > ** ** > > Cheers,**** > > David **** > > ** ** > > --- > Product Developer > www.europeana.eu > > Phone: +31 (0)70 3140 696**** > > ****Mobile****: +31 (0)64 217 2542 > Email: david.haskiya(a)kb.nl > Skype: davidhaskiya**** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Tuszynski, Jaroslaw W. [mailto:JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@saic.com] > *Sent:* donderdag 30 mei 2013 20:11 > *To:* Tim Alder; Map integration > *Cc:* Susanna Ånäs; Valentine Charles; dan entous; David Haskiya > *Subject:* RE: [Maps-l] Wikimaps: About the template for maps**** > > ** ** > > I just wrote short program in MATLAB (my favorite programing language) to > create KMLs based on 3 or more anchor points with known x/y coordinates and > latitude/longitude. See > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Geocoding/Overlay#Create_kml_in_M…. Similar codes can be written in other languages, and anchor points can be > provided by using image annotator with links to geocoded wikipedia > articles, see for example > http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AF._M%C3%BCllhaupt%27s…. With 3 or more such image notes there should be enough information on the > HTML of file description page to automatically create KML file.**** > > ** ** > > Now I noticed that current solution of storing KML files in subpages of > files is not well supported by the MediaWiki software as configured on > Wikimedia Commons. Pages from "Category:Geocoding overlays<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Geocoding_overlays>" > often show up on database reports of file pages without files, files with > no license, etc. MediaWiki also does not seem to support subpages of file > pages. May be it can be reconfigured somehow, or maybe we should use some > specialized namespace for the overlays. **** > > ** ** > > Jarek T.**** > > User:Jarek**** > > ** ** > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Alder [mailto:tim.alder@s2002.tu-chemnitz.de] > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 1:40 PM > To: Map integration > Cc: Susanna Ånäs; Tuszynski, Jaroslaw W.; Valentine Charles; dan entous; > David Haskiya > Subject: Re: [Maps-l] Wikimaps: About the template for maps**** > > ** ** > > Thanks Jarek to remember the old KML-overlay solution (A project of > User:Dschwen and me from 2007). The KML-solution had very limited features > to make complex transformation to map an historical map on the actual > world, but we can use the principle to provide via a template a link to a > tool that use data from an Wiki subpage.**** > > ** ** > > With the KML-solution we could only store lat, lon, 2 values for scaling > the map and rotation angle. Now I would store a list of matching points > with x,y in pixel of the map and lat,lon. Would this be ok for Maps-wraper? > (I'm not an expert in this area.)**** > > ** ** > > Like Maarten Dammers I want to make a first rapid hack as a base for the > final solution.**** > > ** ** > > If we know the parameter definition I could hack a template let's say > "overlay2" that opens the right page in Maps-wraper's map viewer[1]. For > this it would be nice if Maps-wraper could work with Commons imagenames as > identifier instead of numbers. Would these be possible?**** > > ** ** > > The Maps-wraper should have on the other side an export page for the > matching parameters so that a user can store it on commons at a subpage.** > ** > > ** ** > > The advantage of the KML-solution was that we don't need any caching > storage. Now the transformations cost a lot of cpu-time so we need a > caching of the tiles at maps-wraper.**** > > ** ** > > Greetings Tim Alder**** > > ** ** > > P.S: I think we should organize the communication so that every mail is > going directly to everone or we should use only the maps-l mailing list[2]. > So it is confusing. I would prefer the mailing list but don't want to loose > anyone how is interested. Sussana should decide.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > [1] http://maps-warper.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org/maps/1**** > > [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/maps-l**** > > >** ** > > > 2013/5/30 Tuszynski, Jaroslaw W. <JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI(a)saic.com **** > > > <mailto:JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@saic.com <JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI(a)saic.com>>>* > *** > > >** ** > > > Hi all,____**** > > >** ** > > > __ __**** > > >** ** > > > A standard, way of geolocating maps involves use of subpages with*** > * > > > KML code. See for example**** > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dayton,_Indiana_1878.png and* > *** > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dayton,_Indiana_1878.png/overlay.kml > **** > > > . There was not a whole lot of people creating those KML’s and the** > ** > > > software often does not like the subpages of files, but the**** > > > infrastructure is there ready to use. If there was more interest in* > *** > > > using them we could discuss some improvements to the system. We**** > > > could also streamline kml production based on available data. Most** > ** > > > current files are created using North/South/East/West edges and**** > > > possible rotation. It might be more convenient to use coordinates of > **** > > > 4 corners, which is a format also supported by KML. ____**** > > >** ** > > > __ __**** > > >** ** > > > Another possibility would be to use Template:GeoPolygon, or both. ** > ** > > > ____**** > > >** ** > > > __ __**** > > >** ** > > > Are there any other fields specific to maps that are not**** > > > template:Artwork? We could always upload a few sample images by hand > **** > > > (or pick existing ones) and ask community for help on formatting**** > > > metadata, which would be than used as a template (using non**** > > > Wikipedia meaning of the word) for the other uploads. That way we*** > * > > > can easily see what are the possible improvements to Commons**** > > > templates (using Wikipedia meaning of the word).____**** > > >** ** > > > __ __**** > > >** ** > > > We could also create a specialized template for maps, which could be > **** > > > just extension of Artwork template. But it would be the best to**** > > > avoid that if not necessary. Rarely used templates tend to get**** > > > little attention and maintenance. ____**** > > >** ** > > > __ __**** > > >** ** > > > Jarek T.____**** > > >** ** > > > User:jarekt____**** > > >** ** > > ** ** > -- *Susanna Ånäs* Wikimedia Suomi <http://fi.wikimedia.org/wiki/Etusivu> GLAM <http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM> – tiedotus – yhteistyö Puhelin: +358 40 557 8039 Sähköposti: susanna.anas(a)wikimedia.fi Wikimedia Suomi <http://blog.wikimedia.fi/> -blogi on aloitettu! Seuraa meitä Twitterissä @ <https://twitter.com/WMFinland>WMFinland<https://twitter.com/WMFinland>tai Facebookissa <https://www.facebook.com/WikimediaSuomi>. Liity jäseneksi!<http://fi.wikimedia.org/wiki/Liity_j%C3%A4seneksi>

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Wikimaps reporting
by Susanna Ånäs 30 May '13

30 May '13

During the Amsterdam Hackathon we were able to discuss the Wikimaps environment over several days with a fine group of minds. Please have a look in http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikimaps The plan covers what we are doing + where we are heading. 1. Presenting historical maps in a web mapping service within the Wikimedia family. Putting together the toolset and interfaces for that. 2. Working together with OpenStreetMap Historic to find a common way to model historical geodata. 3. Designing tools to employ the maps in Wikipedia We have a blog post at http://blog.wikimedia.fi/ Looking forward to your comments! On behalf of all of us, Susanna -- *Susanna Ånäs* Wikimedia Suomi <http://fi.wikimedia.org/wiki/Etusivu> GLAM <http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM> – tiedotus – yhteistyö Puhelin: +358 40 557 8039 Sähköposti: susanna.anas(a)wikimedia.fi Wikimedia Suomi <http://blog.wikimedia.fi/> -blogi on aloitettu! Seuraa meitä Twitterissä @<https://twitter.com/WMFinland> WMFinland <https://twitter.com/WMFinland> tai Facebookissa <https://www.facebook.com/WikimediaSuomi> . Liity jäseneksi! <http://fi.wikimedia.org/wiki/Liity_j%C3%A4seneksi>

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(Re-)introducing Wikimaps
by Tim Waters 04 May '13

04 May '13

Hi folks, Just a quick introduction. I am also involved with historical maps, OpenStreetMap and the OHM project in general I'm also the developer behind mapwarper.net - I've chatted with Maarten and a couple of others from wikimedia in the past at assorted conferences about effectively putting mapwarper on the wikimedia toolservers - and am glad that this project seems to be gathering some interested again. Please do count me in for any help you may need to install this code (https://github.com/timwaters/mapwarper) , any questions and anything else you may encounter if you choose to go ahead with using mapwarper. Cheers, Tim Waters

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(Re-)introducing Wikimaps
by Susanna Ånäs 17 Apr '13

17 Apr '13

Hi Everyone! My name is Susanna Ånäs and I am active in the Finnish Wikimedia. We have a cooperation project going with the Finnish National Archives with their historical maps and this has given us the opportunity to look anew at the Wikimaps environment. http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiprojekti_Historialliset_kartat/I… Wikimaps was introduced as a concept by Maarten Dammers http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Wikimaps. The idea is to combine environments in Wikimedia to form a maps environment for scanned (historical) maps. I introduced the idea at GLAM-Wiki in London and I have my presentation slides on Sideshare at http://www.slideshare.net/susannaanas/glam-wiki-wikimaps. A test environment is planned to be put up for testing for the Amsterdam Hackathon, more info to follow. Let's put up a Wikimaps page in http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikimaps and gather material there (Feel free to start, I have not yet had the time :) Please let's discuss the project on this list! Nice to know all of you! Best regards, Susanna User:Susannaanas -- *Susanna Ånäs* Wikimedia Suomi <http://fi.wikimedia.org/wiki/Etusivu> GLAM <http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM> – tiedotus – yhteistyö Puhelin: +358 40 557 8039 Sähköposti: susanna.anas(a)wikimedia.fi Wikimedia Suomi <http://blog.wikimedia.fi/> -blogi on aloitettu! Seuraa meitä Twitterissä @ <https://twitter.com/WMFinland>WMFinland<https://twitter.com/WMFinland>tai Facebookissa <https://www.facebook.com/WikimediaSuomi>. Liity jäseneksi!<http://fi.wikimedia.org/wiki/Liity_j%C3%A4seneksi>

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Crowd-Beitrag in der SZ
by Catrin Schoneville 03 Apr '13

03 Apr '13

Hallo zusammen, gerade einen Artikel aus der SZ gefunden. OSM wird genannt - wen es interessiert (leider nur als pdf).... Grüße! Catrin. -- Mit besten Grüßen Catrin Schoneville Pressesprecherin ------------------------------------- Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstraße 72 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de <http://www.wikimedia.de/> Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch freien Zugang zu der Gesamtheit des Wissens der Menschheit hat. Helfen Sie uns dabei! *Helfen Sie mit, dass WIKIPEDIA von der UNESCO als erstes digitales Weltkulturerbe anerkannt wird. Unterzeichnen Sie die Online-Petition:* http://wikipedia.de/wke/Main_Page?setlang=de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Re: [Maps-l] IP Renumbering of the complete Toolserver cluster (fwd)
by Marlen Caemmerer 02 Apr '13

02 Apr '13

Hello, unfortunatelly maintenances regarding this topic are not finished yet. It turned out configuring both IP ranges on the head nodes / balancers is way to complicated. Additionally not all other hosts have been renumbered. Thats why I announce the maintenance of the following hosts for tomorrow 1800 UTC - 2100 UTC hemlock.toolserver.org. clematis.toolserver.org. willow.toolserver.org. hawthorn.toolserver.org. submit.toolserver.org. daphne.toolserver.org. On Friday I will do a really big maintenance and renumber the head nodes (damiana & turnera) and the web servers (ortelius & wolfsbane) 1900 UTC - 2359 UTC (hope to not need this window completely) Since a lot of testing has to be done I really appreciate any help you can give here. Kind regards Marlen

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IP Renumbering of the complete Toolserver cluster
by Marlen Caemmerer 22 Mar '13

22 Mar '13

Hello, Toolserver needs a complete change of the officially assigned IP addresses. Every accessible service will be involved. This involves several maintenances that will cause interruptions. The maintenances will also cause interuptions for OSM. To see if everything comes up correctly reboots will be necessary on all regarding servers. I will start with parallel IP setup at the load balancers/head nodes damiana and turnera. I will do this next Thursday, 28th March 20-22 h UTC. The next maintenances will involve the login servers, web and mail servers. They will happen at Friday, 29th March 20 - 22h UTC and Sunday, 31th March 20 - 22h UTC. I hope everything will work after that. Cheers nosy/Marlen

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What's going on
by Tim Alder 15 Mar '13

15 Mar '13

Hello, we had a meeting[1] where we talk about map related stuff. There were two groups of things we want to move from toolserver to Wikimedia foundation infrastructure, one is production system the other is all the other beautiful experimental stuff: *Production system: This system will be maintained by the mobile team together with operations. The render stack will be designed for max. output and high stability. So the actual plan is to have four render servers (Mapnik/mod-tile) using shared object storage(Ceph) for metatiles and a caching layer in front of them (Varnish). At beginning the most import style is OSM-default. Other styles like OSM-no-labels, multilingual styles, Wikiminiatlas-style and hikebikemap comes perhaps later. *Experimental system: For this we will use Wikilabs together with an external OSM-database server. The database layout will be the same as on toolserver. The database server will take longer (we calculate with around 2 months and then more time to move) so we will use on toolserver the new server for some time. An other important decisions at this meeting was that we want to try to merge Wikiminiatlas(WMA) and OSM-Gadget. We meet us on neutral ground, which means we use a new implementation of the WMA in Leaflet. This will brings together the good mediawiki integration of WMA with a modern user interface over a popular framework like we had it with OSM-Gadget. There will be two ways to see the map, you can have Wikipedia-textlabels on a map without labels (like in WMA) or you can see Wikipedia-POIs as little icons on a OSM-map with text (like in OSM-Gadget). Leaflet will also be smaller and faster than Openlayers. We will send a mail if we have something to show and then any help and comments are welcome. Greetings Tim [1]http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/Wikimedia_Mapping_Event_2013

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