Hello Everyone,
I have been working on the Campaign workflows[1] for the commons media upload app. The flows have been made to allow the user to look for current running campaigns, subscribe to them, and contribute media to them. Looking for feedback/comments to improve the workflows.
I have also been exploring alternative ideas to getting a title for an image from the user as expecting him/her to enter a unique title, a description and categories would become stressful. Also, titles being a technical requirement, im unsure if we should burden the user. One of the ideas i had is to ask the user to describe the image he is uploading and extracting a title from it. Users who share images to their social networks are adept at describing the images they post and this may just about work. looking for ideas around this too.
[1] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Campaigns_workflows_Andro...
On 03/11/2013 11:22 AM, Shankar Narayan wrote:
I have also been exploring alternative ideas to getting a title for an image from the user as expecting him/her to enter a unique title, a description and categories would become stressful. Also, titles being a technical requirement, im unsure if we should burden the user. One of the ideas i had is to ask the user to describe the image he is uploading and extracting a title from it.
If you take that approach, I would use that to pre-fill the title, while still letting them choose a better one. Titles are actually quite important, and matter to people (particularly those editing wiki pages), not machines.
Matt Flaschen
iv been working on adding the visual styling to the campaign work flows do have a look at it. This should give us a better idea about how it would look
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Campaign-workflows.png
On 12 March 2013 03:33, Matthew Flaschen mflaschen@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 03/11/2013 11:22 AM, Shankar Narayan wrote:
I have also been exploring alternative ideas to getting a title for an image from the user as expecting him/her to enter a unique title, a description and categories would become stressful. Also, titles being a technical requirement, im unsure if we should burden the user. One of the ideas i had is to ask the user to describe the image he is uploading and extracting a title from it.
If you take that approach, I would use that to pre-fill the title, while still letting them choose a better one. Titles are actually quite important, and matter to people (particularly those editing wiki pages), not machines.
Matt Flaschen
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Shankar Narayan notnarayan@gmail.comwrote:
iv been working on adding the visual styling to the campaign work flows do have a look at it. This should give us a better idea about how it would look
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Campaign-workflows.png
It looks lovely, but I'm worried there aren't clear affordances indicating what's going on or what to do.
* Campaign list looks exactly like the photos list; it's hard to tell where I am. * It's not clear what the number on the campaign tile means * It's not clear to me what I'm supposed to do after clicking on a campaign; there's no call to action. The upload button is on the action bar, but it's not very compelling, and it doesn't tell me anything about what I should be photographing or how I should be contributing it. * How do I know what's in scope for a campaign? There's no description or intro text. * Campaigns as they currently exist in UploadWizard can include explanatory text to show, an alternate tutorial image, an extra custom field in the uploader to fill out, etc. Is there any provision for this stuff? * Campaigns currently don't appear to have human-readable titles; existing campaign names are things like "wlm-de-nrw". Would we add human-readable titles as shown in the mockup? How would they be localized? * I don't like hiding categories on the upload details; there will often be additional categories to add beyond the default ones specified by the campaign.
I suspect we're going to have to do an overhaul of how campaigns work to make them fit well in the mobile interface....
-- brion
+1 to what brion said. We *definitely* will have to do some server side work to support this - the current code will not be able to support all that we want.
Also, how would post upload actions work with this? Share? Extra categorization?
On 13 March 2013 23:33, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Shankar Narayan notnarayan@gmail.comwrote:
iv been working on adding the visual styling to the campaign work flows do have a look at it. This should give us a better idea about how it would look
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Campaign-workflows.png
It looks lovely, but I'm worried there aren't clear affordances indicating what's going on or what to do.
- Campaign list looks exactly like the photos list; it's hard to tell
where I am.
the top nav takes care of this. The user will be swiping between My Uploads and campaigns a common mobile design pattern.
- It's not clear what the number on the campaign tile means
This could improve. What other data can we give him on a single campaign tile that would make him want to contribute to a campaign?
- It's not clear to me what I'm supposed to do after clicking on a
campaign; there's no call to action. The upload button is on the action bar, but it's not very compelling, and it doesn't tell me anything about what I should be photographing or how I should be contributing it.
- How do I know what's in scope for a campaign? There's no description or
intro text.
An explanatory note for every campaign? that would be neat. Ill work this into the flows. :)
- Campaigns as they currently exist in UploadWizard can include
explanatory text to show, an alternate tutorial image, an extra custom field in the uploader to fill out, etc. Is there any provision for this stuff?
- Campaigns currently don't appear to have human-readable titles; existing
campaign names are things like "wlm-de-nrw". Would we add human-readable titles as shown in the mockup? How would they be localized?
- I don't like hiding categories on the upload details; there will often
be additional categories to add beyond the default ones specified by the campaign.
I suspect we're going to have to do an overhaul of how campaigns work to make them fit well in the mobile interface....
-- brion
Design mailing list Design@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design
Out of curiosity, what's the intended resolution of the image presenting the mockups? Pieces of it are pixellated, but without zooming in considerably a lot of the text is pretty hard to read, both in the descriptions and on the app itself.
On 13/03/13 16:30, Shankar Narayan wrote:
iv been working on adding the visual styling to the campaign work flows do have a look at it. This should give us a better idea about how it would look
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Campaign-workflows.png
On 12 March 2013 03:33, Matthew Flaschen <mflaschen@wikimedia.org mailto:mflaschen@wikimedia.org> wrote:
On 03/11/2013 11:22 AM, Shankar Narayan wrote: > I have also been exploring alternative ideas to getting a title for an > image from the user as expecting him/her to enter a unique title, a > description and categories would become stressful. Also, titles being > a technical requirement, im unsure if we should burden the user. One of > the ideas i had is to ask the user to describe the image he is uploading > and extracting a title from it. If you take that approach, I would use that to pre-fill the title, while still letting them choose a better one. Titles are actually quite important, and matter to people (particularly those editing wiki pages), not machines. Matt Flaschen _______________________________________________ Design mailing list Design@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Design@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design
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Hi,
Quick question from no designer but Commonist :)
I have been working on the Campaign workflows[1] for the commons media
upload app. The flows have been made to allow the user to look for current running campaigns, subscribe to them, and contribute media to them. Looking for feedback/comments to improve the workflows.
This has a big potential, thanks for your work :)
How would the app deal with dozen of running campaigns, only through the Search? Would it be a very long list to scroll through, or could the campaigns clustered / filtered based on some criteria ? (maybe by geographic zone - so that the "Restaurants in HK" one would not be displayed to a German user :)
Thanks,