I happen to agree that about 90% of the user and admin time policing the fine borderlines of "Notability" to make sure that no not-quite-ready-for-prime-time local band or webcomic or semiprofessional athlete finds his way into Wikipedia, and detailing ever more finely nuanced guidelines on this issue, is generally misplaced or at least overemphasized.
On the other hand, in the realm of BLP, this guideline becomes much more important to keeping content that could damage the well-being and reputation of a living person, while serving no sufficient encyclopedic purpose to warrant doing so, does not sully our project. Wikipedia does not exist to hurt people.
Newyorkbrad
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Charlotte Webb charlottethewebb@gmail.comwrote:
On 10/1/08, Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) newyorkbrad@gmail.com wrote:
In Wikipedia jargon, I could simply say that "you left Notability off
your
list [of NPOV, NOR, V]"
Brad, I can only compare this to [[You forgot Poland]] in terms of undue weight.
The holy hand grenade of "notability" is not a fundamental content rule, only a set of wholly subjective criteria for users to badger each other with on AFDs.
*Keep, subject is discussed in 50 sources, which is significant. *Delete, subject is discussed in *only* 50 sources, which is pathetic (i'm more notable than that). **So write an article about yourself ***No, that would be COI. ****Then I'll write it for you. *****No, that would be harassment.
Sounds about like:
*Support, user has almost 22 thousand edits. *Oppose, user has less than 22 thousand edits. **You were promoted with half that. ***That was a year ago. ****So you assume 100% inflation? *****No, I have templates to calculate it.
There is plenty of accurate, neutral, fully sourceable material about
living
persons that still has no place in Wikipedia.
If this is true it should be true whether or not the subject is living (or is a person). As the adages go, if I can't say it to your face I shouldn't say it behind your back. If I'm not allowed to mention it at your wedding, I won't say it at your funeral either. etc. etc. etc.
—C.W.
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